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Schiplt
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04-17-2008, 11:52 PM
Post subject: semibluff shove
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Villian runs 54/23/2 and Ive seen him show down some really retarded hands and make some strange, but strong, bluffs.His range is like Qx, JJ-22, and maybe 67 or diamonds. I felt that shoving was the only way i was getting him off his pairs and draws. Overall he plays really cracked out and strange. Good shove, bad shove?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($53.10)
SB ($53.80)
BB ($63.60)
UTG ($53.15)
MP ($138)
CO ($52.05)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , J.
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.5, 2 folds, MP calls $4.50.
Flop: ($13.75) Q, 5 , 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $10, MP calls $10.
Turn: ($33.75) 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $36.6 (All-In), MP has me covered.
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will641
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i dont like the bluff, because you cant count on a fold from a total fish who plays very weird, and is capable of calling with any pair.
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Schiplt
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maybe i over exaggerated the extreme nature of his play. i had seen him make some weird bluffs that he was called on. but idk, i felt that he was folding everything worse than QJ here and that was near the top of his range.
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BigLRIP
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This really depends on what kind of fish he is. Some will call down with 99 here while others don't like to put their stack in without a decently strong hand (like tp). Most fish are the latter so I think this is fine. If he has a queen he'll likely call you down, but you still have pretty good equity vs that.
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will641
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Originally Posted by Schiplt
maybe i over exaggerated the extreme nature of his play. i had seen him make some weird bluffs that he was called on. but idk, i felt that he was folding everything worse than QJ here and that was near the top of his range.
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eh, i doubt anyone running 54/23 is capable of folding top pair ever on that board.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Schiplt
i felt that he was folding everything worse than QJ here and that was near the top of his range.
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If this is true than of course this is good.
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donnybaker
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I've lost a lot of money bluffing players like this. Did picking up the fd on the turn influence your decision?
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will641
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Massimo
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Originally Posted by Schiplt
i felt that he was folding everything worse than QJ here and that was near the top of his range.
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If this is true than of course this is good. |
if i had $100, i would bet $100 that he calls all day with Q9.
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Silly String
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In a 3bet pot, I don't think this is bad at all. You are getting 2:1 if called and you have equity of ~30%. Any fold equity makes this +EV. You should have some fold equity since you are the 3bet aggressor & he didn't CR flop.
I am guessing that you are approaching a marginal EV situation and the metagame impact is +EV, but will he be around long enough for metagame to matter?
I usually check behind turn and take my free card cause I'm such a nit.
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