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01-16-2009, 03:01 AM
Post subject: seemed like an easy fold at the time, was it?
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Straight Flush
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UTG is 18/15/4 over 180 hands, MP is 20/18/8 over the same sample. I have no notes on either and don't remember anything out of the ordinary. Not many hands on the Button, but he seemed fairly bad. I had only been at this table ~30 hands and had already 3bet 3 times and squeezed one other. At first i thought its a call because i've been so active in such a short amount of time, but after seeing MP's backraise i think he anticipated me squeezing a good % of the time, especially if the donkish button calls after him. even though i hate doing it, i can't see how at least one of these wasn't AA/KK. FWIW, if MP folds i snap this because of UTG's retarded 4bet size alone.
thoughts?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
UTG ($380.15)
MP ($225.40)
CO ($173)
Button ($90.20)
Hero (SB) ($230.30)
BB ($105.60)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , Q
UTG raises to $7, MP calls $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, UTG raises to $121, MP raises to $225.40 (All-In), button folds, Hero folds
Total pot: $286 | Rake: $0
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Looks good to me, I don't know if I squeeze quite that big though.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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meeloche
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Once they both ship it in folding seems fine. I wouldn't always squeeze here I would flat here some of the time as well.
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Da GOAT
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id call pre more than id 3bet
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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mcatdog
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I can't imagine flatting here, but IF flatting is good then you should be squeezing with your air here 100% of the time.
As played I'd call it off if both players know you're capable of squeezing and are capable of thin stack-offs. UTG can be moving in quite wide here and the flatter can have JJ or AK that didn't see value in 3-betting an UTG raise, but now thinks he can stack off given all the dead money in the pot. If either of them is a nit in big pots then folding might be more prudent, and regardless this would be the bottom of my range for stacking off.
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Da GOAT
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hmm maybe im getting abit passive regards 3betting utg lately
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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bode
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i cant really see not squeezing here. What are the reasons you guys would flat here for?
Mcat, i hadn't played enough hands (payed enough attention?) with any of the villains to pick up on tendencies in big pots of stack off ranges.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Egh I'd call it off.
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nutsinho
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id prob let it go but its probably a close one
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so i fold and UTG goes into the tank for his whole timebank and ends up folding what he said is AQs getting just shy of 4:1 on his call. MP laughs his ass off as he takes down a 2 buyin pot without a showdown and I want to punch myself in the face because i wanted to see MP show his hand down really bad.
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jyms
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I call this off if I was as aggressive as you say. It's a fold otherwise.
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nutsinho
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lol sick hero fold......
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Toadstool
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wow, that's a horrible way to play AQs
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bode
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Originally Posted by Toadstool
wow, that's a horrible way to play AQs
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yeah, i don't think you could play it any worse
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bigspenda73
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sanity call
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