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pough4life
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05-22-2006, 05:04 PM
Post subject: Seeing the flop %
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 50
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Im new to the 6 max ring games, and Im not sure on what is considered an ideal % of seeing the flops. Normally in a full ring game I play around 30%, but I figure 6 max is around 50% (I may be completely wrong). Im sure this stat has alot to do with reads, and table atmosphere, but a ballpark figure is what I would like.
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jackvance
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I think around 30-35%. Depends on your playstyle too. It's actually easier to look at vp$ip than %see flop. The amount of times a person voluntarily puts money in the pot to see a flop tells you more than the sheer amount of times they see a flop - although both are ofcourse strongly related.
If the tables you play at are loose, I'd say you want to see 25-30% of flops, if they are tight, see 30-35%. Something like that.
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aislephive
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Does % seeing the flop include playing from the blinds? I think VPIP is a more important stat. And you should be in the neighborhood of 20-25 to 25-30.
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jackvance
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% to see the flop is on average 5% higher than VP$IP.
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jackvance
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Oh yeah, and for what it's worth, my play. Sorry about the low limit, probably doesn't make it too representational on the whole. But I had to cash out $250 on saturday and $130 earlier today due to real life stuff, so I'm scraping to get roled for 20NL and up again. Higher limits my stats stay about the same (except the BB/100 is lower ofc) but my PFR goes up. My VP$IP is 27.
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flotu
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Join Date: May 2006
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50% is probably much too high, 35% or lower is best. Not too low either of course. A good loose aggressive player goes to the flop more often than his tight aggressive opponent, but both of them is playing a solid game.
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