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Ravageur

09-09-2010, 11:54 PM Post subject: Seconds nuts - the SEQUEL - Also a pair + FD turn spot.

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Small disclaimer : ppl may think that I'm just posting veiled coolers, but when you are downswinging (read: no longer a winning player) as hard and for as long a period of time as I am, i'm really not sure what else I can do than look at my biggest losing pots and hope that I'm making mistakes that I can improve upon. This on top of watching vids and reviewing hands. I guess I will have to suck it up and cut down to just playing a few tables to lower variance. Bleh.

My image in these games - I have been a TAG reg at this site for a long time but have moved down from 5/10 to 2/4 to 1/2. A lot of the 1/2 regs used to play higher as well so know that I have also moved down. I'm getting CRUSHED at 1/2 (like -30bb/100 yay) so I think that definitely influences how they play vs me (people seem to play better against someone they know is running bad).

Villain in both these hands is AKPB, he's a aggro lagfish, like 30/25/12 and does some really strange/spewy checkraises as we see here. This hand is exactly one orbit before the KK hand:

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($381.28)
BB ($202.25)
UTG ($604.97)
Hero (MP) ($362.25)
Button ($449.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

, J

UTG bets $6, Hero raises $21, 3 folds, UTG calls $15

Flop: ($45) Q

, 10

, 6

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $22.50, UTG calls $22.50

Turn: ($90) A

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($90) K

(2 players)
UTG bets $67.50, Hero raises $153, UTG raises $493.97 (All-In), Hero calls $165.75 (All-In)

Total pot: $727.50

UTG shows 77 for airball.

Hand in question : Are we deep enough that I should be flatting his 4-bet here? I initially thought we were deeper but we're only 280 BB deep so maybe this is a no-brain get it in. I don't really like my 5-bet size..am I correct in assuming something like 125$ish would be better and induce more spazz shoves? I feel like now that i've made it so big he's only shoving AA over my near committing 5-bet and when he does now i'm not happy.

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($323.68)
Button ($551.75)
Hero (SB) ($765.70)
BB ($401.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, K

1 fold, Button bets $6, Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, Button raises to $52, Hero raises to $148, Button raises to $454, Hero FML.

Hand 3:

Villain is new, and seems pretty bad/passive and I assume sucks caus he doesn't reload to 100BB. I feel like I have to call flop in position with some backdoor straightdraws as well. Are there enough 89/combo that I beat in his range?

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($174.80)
UTG ($190.14)
MP ($582.30)
Hero (Button) ($384.40)
SB ($510.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, 5

2 folds, Hero bets $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5

Flop: ($15) 4

, 10

, 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises $31.50, Hero calls $19.50

Turn: ($78) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $136.30 (All-In), Hero wants to spite call.

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Genitruc

09-10-2010, 12:12 AM

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results in hand 1 would help

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

Genitruc

09-10-2010, 12:14 AM

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if the

were a

I'd call in the last hand, as played i think it s a close fold (since he has lots of 7x cc hands that are crushing you know)

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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09-10-2010, 01:39 AM

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I spent like 2min trying to understand hand 1 and its significance, but yeah results would def help!

2) I don't mind your 4bet sizing, although I prefer 130-135$ with these stack sizes. I'd definitely 4bet here and happily get it in vs this guy.

3)If hes that passive he wont have 89, his worse hands will be like AJcc or 89cc so close fold. If he was aggro spewy its a snap call.

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09-10-2010, 01:59 AM

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Spoke to Rav earlier, and he said villain had 77 in hand 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-Z

I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

Ravageur

09-10-2010, 03:43 AM

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YEah fk sorry damn converter. Villain in hand 1 had 77, I will edit.

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09-10-2010, 04:50 AM

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2: Of course call if you 5bet. I probably wouldn't 5bet though and yeah make it smaller if you do.

3: Fold flop.

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09-10-2010, 09:17 PM

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i bet the turn in hand 1 against someone loose. not too big though. id also raise riv a tad smaller

KK.. meh i dont know.

bad passive players dont play flushdraws like that

i think you would be happier playing 100bb deep more

Renton

09-10-2010, 10:08 PM

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I don't like the 3-bet pre in hand 1, especially for that size. I'm with gabe on betting the turn. I think thats your best chance to get value from worse (unless you think he's making a bunch of spewy floats, like he ended up doing with 77).

Hand 2 I get in, probably 5b/stacking AK/KK+ there. I'd 5b smaller.

Hand 3 I fold, flop is close imo.

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