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bdawg56kg
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06-13-2006, 09:50 AM
Post subject: Rivered nut straight on paired board.
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Villian is 37/10, and based on what I've seen and some of his comments, I don't think he's very good. He has been running hot and I doubled him up earlier when I b/3-b AI with AA on a 358 monotone flop. He had 33 and I lost. On the river it's about $430 for me to call. Keep in mind that this is 3-handed.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($562.95)
SB ($1066)
BB ($160.15)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , Q.
Hero raises to $16, SB calls $14, 1 fold.
Flop: ($36) 4 , J , 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB raises to $56, Hero calls $32.
Turn: ($148) J (2 players)
SB bets $56, Hero calls $56.
River: ($260) T (2 players)
SB bets $938 (All-In), Hero ?
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jackvance
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To me this really looks like he has a monster. My guess would be J9/99. It's so tempting to call that it's probably bad.. I haven't really seen people play bluffs like this too often..
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Renton
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Any reason why you called the flop? I doubt you're taking this pot away if you don't hit.
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Robert
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Originally Posted by Renton
Any reason why you called the flop? I doubt you're taking this pot away if you don't hit.
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implied odds and position. But I agree with renton, I think I fold the flop too.
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dsaxton
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I'd fold the flop against a poor player.
On the river, it's highly unlikely that even a weaker player is doing this with just trip J's. And with the strength he showed on the flop, it's even likelier you're looking at a full house. I would just fold.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Renton
Any reason why you called the flop? I doubt you're taking this pot away if you don't hit.
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Deep stacks, bad opponent, draw to the nuts, backdoor draw to the effective nuts, and overcard value (which may or may not be good), and metagame purposes make this a good call IMO.
Truthfully, I think this river is a call. Your line doesn't exactly scream strength, and this is a bad player in a 3-handed game. Plus, in his mind, the ten doesn't really complete any draws. I call.
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Lukie
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and I doubled him up earlier when I b/3-b AI with AA on a 358 monotone flop. He had 33 and I lost.
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Why are we b3bai'ing with AA on a 358r board  ?
send me the HH sometime.
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dsaxton
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Well, I guess if you factor in that K's and Q's are very often legitimate outs, I think calling a virtual minraise is probably not bad.
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bdawg56kg
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
On the river, it's highly unlikely that even a weaker player is doing this with just trip J's. And with the strength he showed on the flop, it's even likelier you're looking at a full house. I would just fold.
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Can you explain why his line looks like a boat and not just trips?
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bdawg56kg
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Truthfully, I think this river is a call. Your line doesn't exactly scream strength, and this is a bad player in a 3-handed game. Plus, in his mind, the ten doesn't really complete any draws. I call.
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I agree. I was running so terribly and at the time it felt like anything I'd do would be a disaster. If I call, surely he'll show 44/J9 and I lose another big pot. So I timed out and folded. But looking back I think it's v close, but leaning toward a call.
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dsaxton
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Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
On the river, it's highly unlikely that even a weaker player is doing this with just trip J's. And with the strength he showed on the flop, it's even likelier you're looking at a full house. I would just fold.
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Can you explain why his line looks like a boat and not just trips? |
Because it's a huge overbet. Even poorer players rarely make these bets on paired boards without full houses. Plus, the size of the bet gives you incredibly bad odds.
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Lukie
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and I doubled him up earlier when I b/3-b AI with AA on a 358 monotone flop. He had 33 and I lost.
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Why are we b3bai'ing with AA on a 358r board ?
send me the HH sometime. |
I swear to god it said 358 rainbow flop before. No joke.
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aislephive
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I'm folding here, overbets like this are almost always monsters.
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