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Old 05-04-2007, 03:57 AM     Post subject: river value decision, 220 BB's deep #1 (permalink)  
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 -UTG is a solid reg, who runs at about 17/10/1.1. He usually calls me down pretty light, so I thought I'd check out a flop so deep and try hit hard
-whats the best play on this river? lead or check/raise ?

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $503.76
Button: $135.25
SB: $169.54
Hero: $443

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with
UTG raises to $8, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: ($24, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($24, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17, UTG calls, SB folds.

River: ($58, 2 players)
Hero ??
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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C/raise sounds good to me but then he is quite passive. Your hand is well hidden so c/raise is good hoping he has a high ( unless its )
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 You could try to lead very weakly for like $15-$20 to make it look like a blocking bet and hope to get raised.
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You could try to lead very weakly for like $15-$20 to make it look like a blocking bet and hope to get raised.
based on player description it s pretty unlikely

One reason not to CR is his nittiness ; will he bet a Q or K of diamonds for value? If not then leading is fine.

However, a nit is unlikely to be calling a multiway pot without at least Kd... If he has 10x he'll prob never call a bet anyways.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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You could try to lead very weakly for like $15-$20 to make it look like a blocking bet and hope to get raised.
I like this, but i see genitrucs point. in the heat of the moment this is probably what i do.
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i'm having trouble thinking of hands he's calling a bet with but not betting himself if you check.

i don't think Qd is likely from how he played post flop after raising utg. Ad or Kd seem more likely.

or could be 6d6x/JdJx...overall i lean to c/r though.
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If he might check behind you need to bet since if he calls light he's probably calling with a daimond. I think bet about $35 to $40.
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i'm having trouble thinking of hands he's calling a bet with but not betting himself if you check.

i don't think Qd is likely from how he played post flop after raising utg. Ad or Kd seem more likely.

or could be 6d6x/JdJx...overall i lean to c/r though.
Thanks for the replies guys.

If we check raise, how much do we check raise to? Lets assume villain bets $30ish. Do we overraise, or just check-raise to like 90-130ish for value?
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