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Old 06-20-2009, 07:55 AM     Post subject: river straight on paired flushy board #1 (permalink)  
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Villain seems fishy and 59-6 over 20 hands. He's folded to 1/5 c-bets so far. When he calls the cbet I put him on some weak ace most likely, check turn behind supports that. River is nice, but the board is paired and i'd like the jack better if it wasn't a diamond. Thoughts on line?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q
3 folds, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.50, Hero bets $4, Button calls $4, 1 fold

Flop: ($11) 2, A, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls $8

Turn: ($27) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($27) J (2 players)
Hero bets $18,
 
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I guess the only interesting part about this hand is what we do against a river raise.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:57 AM #3 (permalink)  
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make it 5 or 5.5 pre vs the feesh. bet more on river
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I guess the only interesting part about this hand is what we do against a river raise.
ok, here it is

River: ($27) J (2 players)
Hero bets $18,Button raises $40,
 
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Old 06-20-2009, 03:23 PM #5 (permalink)  

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I guess the only interesting part about this hand is what we do against a river raise.
ok, here it is

River: ($27) J (2 players)
Hero bets $18,Button raises $40,
I don't think this guy is raising a lot of money without the nuts....especially on the river. GF!



I'm assuming you folded...
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:28 PM #6 (permalink)  
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So, I stoved it and figured out that the only flush it makes sense for him to have is KdQd
if you think he's raising any trip combination you should call down:
Board: 2d Ac Ts Th Jh

Hand 0: 41.250% { KhQs }
Hand 1: 58.750% { JJ-TT, 22, ATs, KQs, KTs, QTs, JTs, ATo, KQo, KTo, QTo, JTo }

obviously if he just flats trips we crushed:
Board: 2d Ac Ts Th Jh

Hand 0: 16.071% { KhQs }
Hand 1: 83.929% { JJ-TT, 22, ATs, KQs, JTs, ATo, KQo, JTo }

but bad players generally don't have any idea about relative hand strength and trip tens just "looks" strong so I'd call it down and expect to be behind, but getting the right odds to call

(22 into 107 we are almost getting odds to call if he never raises trips, expecting to split with straights)
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:35 AM #7 (permalink)  
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easiet fold ever, iopq the guys most likely holding is ax d's, followed by kq d's, followed by boats.
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:26 AM #8 (permalink)  
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easiet fold ever, iopq the guys most likely holding is ax d's, followed by kq d's, followed by boats.
we can only fold if he never raises trips ever here and never raises KQo here
we only need 20.5% equity here to call

I think we pay him off
we only have 20 hands on him, we don't really have a read that he flats a straight on the river here, I think a lot of fish get overly excited with a straight or trips
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