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gabe
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01-16-2007, 06:48 PM
Post subject: river straight on paired board
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opp is good tricky 5/10 - 10/20 regular. ive seen him make big moves preflop in the past month or so, but in the past few days i havent seen anything too crazy from him. thoughts on all of hand?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
BB ($1015)
UTG ($1886)
Hero ($2282)
SB ($1018)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4 , 5.
1 fold, Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, BB calls $20.
Flop: ($65) 2 , 6, 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB calls $50.
Turn: ($165) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
River: ($165) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $80, Hero raises to $275, BB raises to $935, ???
Final Pot: $2035
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Numbr2intheWorld
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fold.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I say call because you've shown almost no strength previous to the river and so has he (unless he was going for the turn checkraise which would be weird on the flops board).
What does he think of you?
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Warpe
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I think it's an easy call, but I cry when he shows 67s.
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gabe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Massimo
fold.
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this might sound pretentious BUT
i think one-word or simplistic replies in threads i post are pretty pointless. its one thing if its a beginners thread asking about questions that are easily answered and agreed upon by lots of people, but i dont really make threads like those. or at least i try not to.
i dont think 67s is very likely because of flop action. good tags dont usually slowplay a low top two pair. im not sure if he calls with this preflop oop but maybe.
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Shitty deal, looks like 7s over 6s trying not to look like itself. Guess it's up to your history to make the call.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Warpe
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What concerns me is your "tricky" read. Would he slowplay a boat on the turn/go for a c/r?
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gabe
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thats the thing....i know he can be tricky but havent seen too much of it preflop. i do remember a hand from a month or so ago where he 4 bet bluffed me allin preflop with T8 when i had kings after i had been reraising him alot. in general the good players in the game know to build the pot with their good hands fast but that doesnt rule out a boat. one possibility thought would be 33 that called flop and got there on river.
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IowaSkinsFan
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What does he think of you?
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gabe
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he doesnt think im a nit or anything, but i really dont know. he was on a few of my 10 tables so not sure what he saw me show down.
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i think this is a lone 6, chop, or complete bluff enough to call at 3-1.
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He might be doing it with just a 6 after the weakness you've shown, but he probably does have a full house here a lot. I'd imagine that it doesn't matter much if you call or fold.
This is also a spot where I will sometimes fire second barrels, since you're up against a tagg who rarely slow-plays and is also capable of making basic folds.
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Lukie
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I thought he had a boat at the time.
Looking at the hand in more detail, his action doesn't look like a boat at all until the second river raise (c/c flop, < half pot river), and even then it would likely be 33 since you'd expect 22/67 to lead or raise the flop a certain % of the time, probably fairly high.
I think it's sorta close honestly knowing that this particular player is thinking and very aggro (not donkish though), and your line doesn't make a whole lot of sense either unless you have 45.
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This would be a monster laydown. Nice slow play if he has it.
What does his flop call mean? Your turn check behind?
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