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SmackinYaUp

06-04-2005, 08:30 PM Post subject: River play here?

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If you don't mind, reply first before you read the answer. I want to know what everyone thinks. Don't give it away either because people can see what you say as well!

***** Hand History for Game 2154430985 *****
$100 NL Hold'em - Saturday, June 04, 16:19:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 36898 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: kennp111 ( $5.78 )
Seat 2: BZEID103 ( $55.9 )
Seat 3: Fresh7274 ( $175.02 )
Seat 4: SmackinYaUp ( $179.4 )
Seat 5: BetoUSA23 ( $96.17 )
SmackinYaUp posts small blind [$0.5].
BetoUSA23 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ 2d 2c ]
kennp111 folds.
BZEID103 calls [$1].
Fresh7274 raises [$4].
SmackinYaUp calls [$3.5].
BetoUSA23 folds.
BZEID103 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Tc, As ]
SmackinYaUp checks.
Fresh7274 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
SmackinYaUp checks.
Fresh7274 bets [$2].
SmackinYaUp calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
SmackinYaUp checks.
Fresh7274 bets [$15].
SmackinYaUp raises [$30].
Fresh7274 raises [$30].
SmackinYaUp: ?

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SmackinYaUp calls [$15].
Fresh7274 shows [ Ts, Th ] a full house, Tens full of fours.
SmackinYaUp doesn't show [ 2d, 2c ] a full house, Twos full of fours.
Fresh7274 wins $102 from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of fours.
I think I did pretty good here saving myself some money against another big stack. I put him on AA but TT was possible as well. Why would he keep reraising me after getting checkraised on the river? I didn't want anyone to see this and become tainted because I could be just seeing monsters under the bed

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dalecooper

06-04-2005, 09:38 PM

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I'd smooth call his first river bet; at that point you think you're probably winning, but I hate putting a lot of money in when I don't have much of a read.

Also I don't really like your call on the turn. I think he's ahead of you there and I don't really understand why you'd stay in the hand at that point. If you cut this off at the turn (i.e. if I couldn't see the river action), I'd imagine he had a high pair lower than aces and you were behind, or possibly he had something like KQ and still had enough outs that you're really pursuing a very small edge anyway. Let the hand go right there.

As far as what I think he has? Aces or tens slowplayed on the flop; or possibly kings or queens which he is seriously overvaluing. He re-raised enough that I'm guessing aces or tens. I am always, always suspicious when someone shows by-the-book aggression pre-flop (3xBB raise) and then checks the flop, especially against only 1 opponent. Why check there? He's probably slowplaying something, unless he's a coward with a high pair/KQ, and fears the ace. But if that were the case, it seems unlikely he'd fire out a re-raise on the river after you raised him; even if he thought he was ahead he'd probably just call you. Aces or tens is the most likely scenario to me.

stuck

06-04-2005, 10:51 PM

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reads?

Absent of reads, you can't fold. Either call or drop the fucking hammer. I'd fear a higher full house though, and him giving you time to catch up, and therefore probably call.

*checks solution*

Awesome!

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Bmxicle

06-05-2005, 05:26 AM

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fold the turn push the river

Grand_MasterB

06-06-2005, 03:26 PM

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I dont see anything wrong with your play here...especially this being a 6 max table. Your raise on the river was good, when he reraises you just call without a second of hesitation. I know you play 6 max alot so you know howmany times here someone will reraise with something like AT or even KK (although i dont think they had either here). If he does have AA or TT good for him.

interested to see what the conclusion was.

SmackinYaUp

06-06-2005, 03:45 PM

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The conclusion is in my post in white letters somewhere between all those periods. I must have done a pretty good job hiding it. Thanks for the replies guys.

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Element187

06-06-2005, 03:56 PM

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if your going to chase to the river looking for a boat with 22, you have to drop the hammer on the river when you hit to make up for all the money you are going to lose chasing to the river for a boat and miss.

but in this situation, the pot was tiny, your powerhouse check raise was a very strong bet screaming house .. but the fact he came back over the top of you, its time to let it go or cry call ... you played this hand well.

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