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kapilalink
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10-07-2009, 01:20 AM
Post subject: river over bet
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Opp is total fish and has over bet a couple times to this point both times I folded. I chose to slow splay flop because I thought it would get him to bluff off more monies. call riv?
Seat 1: kapilalink ( $420.00 USD )
Seat 2: rrich508 ( $617.10 USD )
kapilalink posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
rrich508 posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kapilalink [ Ts As ]
kapilalink raises [$5.00 USD]
rrich508 calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Th, Ac ]
rrich508 checks
kapilalink bets [$9.00 USD]
rrich508 raises [$30.00 USD]
kapilalink calls [$21.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
rrich508 bets [$50.00 USD]
kapilalink calls [$50.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
rrich508 bets [$531.10 USD]
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I would say slow playing the flop is a mistake this deep. As played I think river's a fold without more info on how he plays.
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yourfather
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Why no 3X preflop, especially deep? He 3bettign alot? I think 3bet flop against this guy if hes aggro fish and let him spazz with AX, A4 and feel pretty good about getting it in. I think I puke/call river. He can def have A4 and maybe A7 random bs. Some of these aggro fish keep overbetting random shit until you look them up. Against alot of people river can be a fold though for sure.
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Streitski
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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On the flop as soon as he raises 30, I would re-raise to 60 or 90, if he reraised I might put him on a set of fours, it would have given you alot more information if you reraised on the flop after he showed strength. In my opinon he probably had a A/High kicker, to A two pair
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Numbr2intheWorld
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kinda sickening, against a total fish (i mean i don't know how he is a fish if you gave us more expanation we could answer better) you shoud 3bet the flop. On the river it just seems close, i think letting go is correct.
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surviva316
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i don't really understand how you can slow play the flop because you expect him to bluff off a lot of money and you've seen him overbet twice before, and yet even remotely consider folding to this line on this board.
once upon a time i ran into a villain whose overbet river shoves were with the nuts. the rest of my experience has been that this is a bluff a lot. also, it's A4/A7/AK just as often as it's 44/TT/AQ, so ANY bluff we can put in his range is just a freeroll
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Hmmm, because of this
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Originally Posted by kapilalink
Opp is total fish and has over bet a couple times to this point both times I folded.
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I'm calling this a ton of the time. Its just what we expected him to do, so now call and live with the consequences of your read. Obviously, he may have KJ or sets, but you are good here waay more often than he is.
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lNormajean
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why would you play it this way and NOT snap this off?
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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if you slowplayed flop to let him overbet bluff the river you have to call
if you think folding here is best, then you should have 3b flop since your earlier reasoning no longer holds
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i would probably call and be dominated ive just seen too many bets like that where they are completely full of crap
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