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Old 06-14-2007, 06:05 PM     Post subject: River card=Gin, or does it? #1 (permalink)  
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Haven't played many hands, but villain seems a quite fishy. He is playing a few too many hands or on a heater. Not super aggressive though so probably not holding the goods. Post flop he hasn't been out of line in the short time I've been sitting.
I thought he might be on a spade draw until the river lead. Do I raise this river for value or should I just call? I think I missed a bet, but this donkey may push his Ace and then I have to puke/fold. What about the rest of the hand. Hate it or love it.

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Button ($14.15)
SB ($7.60)
BB ($7)
UTG ($9.90)
Hero ($12.10)
CO ($9.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, A.
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.4, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.30) 5, K, T (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.1, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, UTG calls $0.90.

Turn: ($3.30) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $0.3, Hero calls $0.30.

River: ($3.90) J (2 players)
UTG bets $0.6, Hero calls $0.60.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:25 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm not raising, and im sure as hell not folding.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:13 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't see how we can put him on a backdoor flush, but a push would be irritating on the potential luckbox-flush and rake levels...

But you missed betting the turn. Villain looks like a really bad player -- wtf is with his flop, turn, and river bet sizes? Not only that, but he's limping UTG. He really could have anything, but probably just has something like A-rag.

I would call here, and based on what he's playing you can exploit later. You'll probably be stacking him later, anyway.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:37 AM #4 (permalink)  
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im raising small here against this guy
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:30 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I think you played it fine raise more preflop .5 or .6 with the limper.
Good raise on flop but once they call I wouldn't be surprised if they have K rag so I don't raise turn either cuz they cant fold.
River I also lean towards just calling on that board.

Oops... I just saw you made a straight - I raise to $2.6, at that level they call with alot & he plays so weak that if he pushes over I think you can safely fold.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:54 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think you played it fine raise more preflop .5 or .6 with the limper.
Good raise on flop but once they call I wouldn't be surprised if they have K rag so I don't raise turn either cuz they cant fold.
River I also lean towards just calling on that board.

Oops... I just saw you made a straight - I raise to $2.6, at that level they call with alot & he plays so weak that if he pushes over I think you can safely fold.
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I couldn't fathom him betting into that river with TPNK. Despite his weak river lead, I figured we were splitting with the A high str8 and I didn't want donkey man to push his hand. "ZOMG, I just made the nuts with my A high straight hand." Then I would have to fold fearing the backdoor luckbox flush.
I just didn't know if the value I give up by not forcing a call from 2pr or even TPNK is worth giving up to not get pushed out of a split pot?
Apparently I'm the luckbox and just didn't know it.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:42 PM #7 (permalink)  
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i raise to around $3 on this river. i think he calls our bet with a worse hand a lot the time here and he rarely has a flush.

if he pushes after we raise i call
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:35 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i raise to around $3 on this river. i think he calls our bet with a worse hand a lot the time here and he rarely has a flush.

if he pushes after we raise i call
Perfect.

How many times have you had a board like this, but minus the hearts, where the straight was the nuts, and then had some total moron push with KJ?

It happens. Raise for value, alllllll day.
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i raise to around $3 on this river. i think he calls our bet with a worse hand a lot the time here and he rarely has a flush.

if he pushes after we raise i call
Perfect.

How many times have you had a board like this, but minus the hearts, where the straight was the nuts, and then had some total moron push with KJ?

It happens. Raise for value, alllllll day.
lol, i remember this EXACT thing happening to me at 1-2nl - like 180bb went in on the river where dude b3b with KJ 2 pr on this board.
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:08 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Yea I raise. I dont expect Kx to call but i expect a call from 2 pair all day.
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