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Ivory
Old 08-13-2005, 03:38 PM     Post subject: right to push here? #1 (permalink)  
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table seemed loose aggressive, i knew someone would raise a little preflop and was planning to re raise.

> cim99hs8 posted small blind ($0.25)
> Rickz posted big blind ($0.50)
> Game # 291,900,120 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards As Kc
> harness called for $0.50
> bigfathead folded
> IvoryTower called for $0.50
> ezpiiej called for $0.50
> cim99hs8 raised for $0.75
> Rickz raised for $5
> harness folded
> IvoryTower went all-in for $29.15
> ezpiiej folded
> cim99hs8 folded
> Rickz called for $24.15
> Dealing the Flop(Ah 3s Kh)
> Dealing the turn(9d)
> Dealing the river(8c)
> Rickz mucked
> IvoryTower wins $58.30 with Two Pair, Aces over Kings
villain had JJ
Rickz> lame
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Old 08-13-2005, 03:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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No, you got lucky. AK is not a limp-reraise hand and anybody who calls that kind of raise has either a slight advantage or has you killed with AA/KK. Once in a while you might get a sucker with AQ or some other garbage, but most of the time, you are going to be behind with this hand.
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Old 08-13-2005, 03:48 PM #3 (permalink)  
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ok guess i was lame
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Old 08-13-2005, 03:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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No, you aren't lame so theres nothing to be embarassed about. You can use this move to pick up a pot if the players look weak and if you get called at least you have a pretty decent hand. If you do this with the intention of getting all your money in against another hand it will put you in bad shape more often than not.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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thought i'd post a similar hand lower stakes... what do you think? should i have done anything differently?


/edit/i tried to represent the jack and then the flush...both attempts failed miserably so i checked the river./edit/

> ochetrotter posted small blind ($0.10)
> LeMoutonNoir posted big blind ($0.20)
> planemad posted to play ($0.10)
> Game # 291,976,390 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards Ah Ks
> IvoryTower raised for $0.80
> planemad folded
> silky_sleeve folded
> ochetrotter called for $0.70
> LeMoutonNoir folded
> Dealing the Flop(4c Jh 2h)
> ochetrotter checked
> IvoryTower bet for $1.60
> ochetrotter called for $1.60
> Dealing the turn(6h)
> _thesurgeon_ sits down
> ochetrotter checked
> IvoryTower bet for $2.40
> ochetrotter called for $2.40
> Dealing the river(3c)
> ochetrotter checked
> IvoryTower checked
> _thesurgeon_ left the table
> ochetrotter shows One Pair, Nines
(9c 9s Jh 6h 4c)
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:29 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Interesting.
I limp all hands but JJ-AA from utg whereas here im raising AK in mp. If he comes over the top with JJ (all in) ill fold no problem, if he reraises ill call to see the flop and on that flop im commiting my chips hoping im not up against KK or AA.
As for pushing AK, iwouldnt do it, especially here when i'd guess a higher pp . I'll take the JJ most days against your AK push.
The play isnt foolish/fishy but you need to rely on a post flop read and to understand that if you miss here post flop you inevitably have to put it down to his post flop aggression with the made hand.
AT least give yourself the chane to put the hand down post flop rather than commiting preflop with an unmade hand.
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