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dan
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08-19-2006, 05:11 AM
Post subject: reraising SC's and Gappers from the SB
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i was 4 tabling $100NL on crypto the other day, on one of my tables, i raised something marginal from the CO, like K9s, the SB reraises me, he didnt have any reads on me i assume...i folded and just brushed it off guessing that he had AK/AA/KK/QQ...an orbit later, i do it again with AQ, same player reraises and the BB calls this time, the hands got shown down and the SB was holding 45s...i decide to fold the CO for a few orbits and then see if he respects me...so i fold for about 5 orbits raise any 2 from the CO and he reraises once more...i had to fold my hand, about 3 orbits later, i pick up AJo, raise from CO and he reraises me, so i 3bet and he folded. Is the way that this player is playing from the SB absolutely stupid? or can it be quite profitable if you know what your doing? What are your thoughts about this?
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johnny_fish
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Raising is fun if they keep folding..
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bluey
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and it doesnt have to be preflop.
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IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?
you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....
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Irisheyes
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You find this alot at higher stakes games. It's an important part of any good players arsnel.
Whats your PFR %?
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Genitruc
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unless u r playing vs a donk i think reraising typical calling hands is best play. by calling u r basically spewing chips only to miss a flop and either be floating, bluffing, or folding your 3.5 bb. if you hit so what maybe he missed gg u 1/3 times...
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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dan
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mine is around 16% but i am hardly reraising. i pretty much only reraise AA/KK/QQ/AK and sometimes JJ.
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benny999
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I think you should work on your reads...noticing loose raisers that know when to fold will let you reraise a lot more (as long as it's not toooo often) and also get big hands paid more.
I'm just starting to pick up on this myself, and it is a great weapon like above posters wrote.
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dan
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i started doing this in my session today, it worked well, it gave me a lot of action on my big hands, one hand board was 544JQ i had 44 pushed the river and he called with JT?
i think its more of a metagame move. but still effecting in picking up small pots.
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andy-akb
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
unless u r playing vs a donk i think reraising typical calling hands is best play. by calling u r basically spewing chips only to miss a flop and either be floating, bluffing, or folding your 3.5 bb. if you hit so what maybe he missed gg u 1/3 times...
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But we are also bloating pots while OOP on every street with marginal hands. Hands that are "typical" calling hands should be called with. I think there are two types of hands we should reraise with preflop, those we are doing it for value and those that we are doing it for deception.
IMO, raising every hand we would call with is spewing. It turns some of our hands into bluffs and makes us play a reraised pot OOP. Id rather reraise preflop from the blinds [in a button steal situation] with a hand like 65s than QJs. 3betting preflop in these situations and others are things we need to incorporate into our games as we move up, but I think we need to closely look at the hands we are doing it with and why.
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