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Old 12-08-2006, 09:18 PM     Post subject: Renton (Fnord and Trip) vs Rondavu #1 (permalink)  
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 I just sat a few hands ago.

Notes on rondavu: Loose player, but not really a lagg. More like a tagg who limps a lot of stuff. I actually have a greater preflop raising range than him. He plays draws pretty aggressively and generally plays tag-like whenever its the turn or the river.


PokerStars Game #7355489198: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/08 - 16:45:30 (ET)
Table 'Owa' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: prostowin ($208.95 in chips)
Seat 3: DoubleJJ770 ($200.95 in chips)
Seat 4: cjoli95 ($57.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Rondavu ($161.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Renton555 ($99.50 in chips)
Rondavu: posts small blind $0.50
Renton555: posts big blind $1

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [9c Qs]

prostowin: folds
DoubleJJ770: folds
cjoli95: folds
Rondavu: calls $0.50
Renton555: raises $3 to $4
Rondavu: calls $3

*** FLOP *** [5s Js 6h]

Rondavu: checks
Renton555: bets $5
jonnypppp joins the table at seat #1
Rondavu: calls $5

*** TURN *** [5s Js 6h] [Ts]

Rondavu: checks
Renton555: bets $12
Rondavu: calls $12

*** RIVER *** [5s Js 6h Ts] [6c]

Rondavu: bets $12
Renton555: raises $36 to $48
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think you're smoked bro. What are you trying to rep with your hand? Looks like a flush draw or overpair on the flop.

He's obviously not trying to steal the pot with that weak $12 bet on the river, I think he's just throwing a bet bet out there that you'd have to call with even a weak pair on that board. I think you were called with either the nut flush or a full house.


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 It seems like a weak hand like a Jx Block betting but being an FTR guy i'm afraid he's 3rd leveling you.
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It seems like a weak hand like a Jx Block betting but being an FTR guy i'm afraid he's 3rd leveling you.
I don't think $12 into a $40+ pot counts as a blocking bet. Especially against someone who has been as aggressive the entire hand as Renton has.


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Old 12-08-2006, 09:48 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 It looks like a bet meant to induce a raise/bluff. I wouldn't be surprised if Rond reraised here.



 
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:51 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 also its virtually impossible to put him on a flush, so the rep value there is apparent
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:18 PM #8 (permalink)  
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you seem to rep the nut flush. maybe a set/boat. the turn and river bet sizes seem a little weird to me though (why not more on turn and push river?).

anyways the $12 river bet looks suspicious. maybe rondavu has As6x, or 65, and wants you to raise. I just wouldn't expect a transparently weak bet from him without something more to it than planning to fold to a raise.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:32 PM #9 (permalink)  
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also its virtually impossible to put him on a flush, so the rep value there is apparent
c/c, c/c? It's passive but it's not unheard of. Rondavu just might take that line with a flush against you.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:37 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 ive been bluff-raising rivers with pretty high frequency lately but I wouldnt here because frankly, it would look like a bluff
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:42 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:23 PM #12 (permalink)  
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side note:rondavu would not get in any pots with me when we played ::(((
We're mixing it up right now.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:44 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Fnord ($153.10)
CO ($220.35)
Button ($121.25)
SB ($103.15)
BB ($117.80)
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($141.70)

Preflop: Fnord is MP with Q, A.
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, Fnord calls $4, 4 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 9, A, A (2 players)
Rondavu bets $6, Fnord raises to $18, Rondavu raises to $38, Fnord raises to $149.1, Rondavu calls $99.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($296.30) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($296.30) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $296.30

Results in white below:
Rondavu has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
Fnord has Qd Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Rondavu wins $284.90. Fnord wins $11.40.
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PokerStars Game #7357886097: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/08 - 19:43:04 (ET)
Table 'Antielus IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: lancer2k2 ($132.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Triptanes ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: Fnord ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Rondavu ($167.75 in chips)
Seat 5: SOSHHSB ($171.40 in chips)
Seat 6: drewlo12 ($199.25 in chips)
drewlo12: posts small blind $0.50
Rondavu said, "nic fold"
lancer2k2: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Triptanes [Th Qd]
Triptanes: raises $3.40 to $4.40
HenryFnord: folds
Rondavu said, "555?"
Rondavu: calls $4.40
SOSHHSB: folds
drewlo12: folds
lancer2k2: raises $7.60 to $12
Triptanes: calls $7.60
Rondavu: calls $7.60
*** FLOP *** [9c Ks Tc]
lancer2k2: bets $23
Triptanes: raises $23 to $46
Rondavu: folds
Rondavu said, "cards are live"
lancer2k2: raises $74.75 to $120.75 and is all-in
Triptanes: calls $42 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c Ks Tc] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ks Tc Jc] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lancer2k2: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Triptanes: shows [Th Qd] (a straight, Nine to King)
Triptanes collected $209.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $212.50 | Rake $3
Board [9c Ks Tc Jc Kh]
Seat 1: lancer2k2 (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 2: Triptanes showed [Th Qd] and won ($209.50) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: HenryFnord folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rondavu folded on the Flop
Seat 5: SOSHHSB (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: drewlo12 (small blind) folded before Flop

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Old 12-08-2006, 11:56 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Button ($107.45)
SB ($77.55)
BB ($81.15)
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($108.10)
MP ($84.15)
Fnord ($107.55)

Preflop: Fnord is CO with 8, 6.
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, 1 fold, Fnord calls $4, 3 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 7, 9, 5 (2 players)
Rondavu bets $7, Fnord raises to $21, Rondavu raises to $104.1, Fnord calls $82.55 (All-In).

Turn: ($217.15) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($217.15) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $217.15

Results in white below:
Rondavu has Ac Kc (one pair, kings).
Fnord has 8s 6s (straight, nine high).
Outcome: Fnord wins $216.60. Rondavu wins $0.54.
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:08 AM #17 (permalink)  
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:09 AM #18 (permalink)  
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Dinner time, shutting down all my tables. Have fun boys.

Rondavu switches gears well.
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Old 12-09-2006, 02:06 AM #20 (permalink)  
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i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
Either he was playing you differently or your reads are way off.
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Old 12-09-2006, 04:53 AM #21 (permalink)  
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I found Rondavu to be fairly tough although with 700 hands against we've never battled post flop HU he is one of the few Tag type players at 100nl that is a winning player in my database.
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Old 12-09-2006, 04:55 AM #22 (permalink)  
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i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
Either he was playing you differently or your reads are way off.
its blindvblind, light calling is std
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Old 12-09-2006, 05:54 AM #23 (permalink)  
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we've never battled post flop HU.
You're missing out on a lot of fun
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:21 AM #24 (permalink)  
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Man I would have loved to watch this table. Stupid southern hemisphere time zone!
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:34 AM #25 (permalink)  
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Fnord ($153.10)
CO ($220.35)
Button ($121.25)
SB ($103.15)
BB ($117.80)
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($141.70)

Preflop: Fnord is MP with Q, A.
UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, Fnord calls $4, 4 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 9, A, A (2 players)
Rondavu bets $6, Fnord raises to $18, Rondavu raises to $38, Fnord raises to $149.1, Rondavu calls $99.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($296.30) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($296.30) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $296.30

Results in white below:
Rondavu has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
Fnord has Qd Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Rondavu wins $284.90. Fnord wins $11.40.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:36 AM #26 (permalink)  
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lol.
Qwned?
Given what you know about both players, I don't think it's that terrible of a spot to get stacked. Against a lot of players, I like calling the flop 3-bet. Against Rondavu I think shoving is a better play.

Anyway, I more than made-up the difference in winning just about every smaller pot we got into. I think that aggression got him to fight back so hard with AK.
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lol.
Qwned?
Given what you know about both players, I don't think it's that terrible of a spot to get stacked. Against a lot of players, I like calling the flop 3-bet. Against Rondavu I think shoving is a better play.

Anyway, I more than made-up the difference in winning just about every smaller pot we got into. I think that aggression got him to fight back so hard with AK.
tottaly agreed. I dont quite think i expected to see 99 here, more like some sort of ace, probably weaker.
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lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years
You certainly didn't start last evening. LoL!

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Makes it a real bitch to get your stack.
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