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Old 06-19-2006, 03:34 PM     Post subject: Relating to preflop reraising #1 (permalink)  
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This guy had been raising a fair ammount in position. What do you think of my flop action?


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UTG ($996.56)
MP ($182.50)
CO ($241.62)
Button ($441.40)
SB ($541.30)
Hero ($542.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K. SB posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, Button raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $31, Button calls $25.

Flop: ($72) 5, A, 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $40, Hero folds.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i usually like to bet first there. i have to have a good reason not to do so, really. you obv don't have a hand, but you showed some serious aggression w/ the PFRR, so you can rep AK a lot more easily that if you'd just smooth called PF. he can bet w/ any two from back there when you check to him and then it feels like you're fuxxored, even when you're ahead and he's just Cbetting himself. it is not worth PFRRing from the blinds if you aren't willing to Cbet, that is a huge part of the advantage it brings. observant players will be able to tell that they should bet if checked to and fold if you lead out if you don't Cbet after a PFRR.

another note: it was folded around to him and he standaraised the button. he would do this w/ any two. this gives you more reason to PFRR as well as to lead out OOP on the flop, no matter what the flop looks like. his position doesn't preclude him from having a hand, of course, but you're probably ahead. you can even make this play w/ junk yourself depending on your overall read of the player (if you perceive him to be the type of player who feels obligated to raise ANY two EVERY time it's folded around to him on the button).
In answer to your question... it depends...
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah probably. Just when I saw the flop I thought that possibly I shouldn't bet because Ax is his most likely hand and I had no indication that he would fold a pair if I bet.
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Playing OOP is never fun but if you're going to establish aggression with a RR preflop you need to throw something out on the flop. You're check screams my pocket pair is scare of the A, eg KK or QQ.

Now from another view, say you did have AK instead of QK. Maybe a check raise in this position is a great move.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:47 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I never c/f HU after I reraise preflop. I almost always cbet, unless I have something like KK/QQ on a Axx flop. Then I try to induce bluffs. It's probably very predictable/exploitable, but I seem to get away with it so far.
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:28 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hero bets $50 or so.
Opp folds unless he really wants to play a big pot wit ha weak ace or has a good ace imo.
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Old 06-21-2006, 09:13 AM #7 (permalink)  
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If this player raises a lot in position, it probably means he knows what a reraise prf OOP means (AA/KK/AK) and he will fold at least 50% of the time to at $40-$50 bet
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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If he raises many hands in position he could easily have a "non ace hand". I also think that you should almost never check the flop when you have re-raised preflop.
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:56 PM #9 (permalink)  
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this flop is such an easy bet. you have nothing, with no draw. just bet and hope he folds.
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