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aka_red
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06-03-2010, 04:39 AM
Post subject: rate my bluff
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$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG changethief8 ($301.05)
UTG+1 jjkid11045 ($200)
CO kklonoa ($200)
BTN FiLL000 ($249.90)
SB Hero ($200)
BB Rockin it all ($232.30)
Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is SB  
changethief8 folds, jjkid11045 folds, kklonoa folds, FiLL000 folds, Hero raises to $7, Rockin it all calls $5
Flop:    ($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Rockin it all calls $8
Turn:  ($30, 2 players)
Hero checks, Rockin it all bets $14, Hero raises to $48, Rockin it all calls $34
River:  ($126, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $137
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Halv
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Funny how you went off on that guy who gave no reads in the FR forum then post a monster bluff with no reads. Since you can open the J8o BvB I'll assume he's pretty bad and prolly won't fold anything but the 65cc.
Of course this may be over my level but that seems like a pretty good turn card to c/f.
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pocketfours
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What do you think yourself?
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aka_red
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i didnt post any reads because i didnt have any and the sample size i had was like 25 or something but probably should have mentioned that i didnt know enough about the guy. i don't think its that bad of a bluff the fact that he didnt 3b pre significantly cuts down on his nut hands [ak,aa,kk,qq] and i have a J so it blocks some some of his JT combos. plus i think he folds worse than AQ and the only hand better than AQ that i guess he could have is the JT(12) and 66(3) against 6cXc(3?), AQ(9), AJ(12), AT(12), QcXc(3?).
edit: loads of back door spades that get there. AsXs(8) KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s(3). so its much closer than i orginally thought.. still don't think its the worst though..?
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pocketfours
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The river plays itself after you spew on the turn.
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oskar
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I open fold pre unless villain has been very inactive.
Without history I think turn is odd. I would think b b b is more credible. It's not like you can expect random unnkown donk to float there. As played ldo shove river.
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sweetlemon69
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who the hell are we to question reds power?
/me bows
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griffey24
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If you ask me, this is infinitely more credible if you just go $8, $44, $95 into $74
I mean, what hands are you really going for a turn c/r with on this board?
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supa
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What is it about a woman with her legs crossed like that so it looks like she's not wearing anything under that dress.I don't care if she's bluffing a with nothing or wearing a thong.It's the image that I'll keep in my mind.Wait...what was the question?
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ZwiFT
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this whole hand loks spewy to me
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Toadstool
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Then everyone must agree this is a new optimal line for value?
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Halv
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I don't see why. Villain's checking back lots of mid strength on the turn.
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Imthenewfish
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I'm not sure you were behind on the river. Try to induce him to bluff so you can catch it and be like I HAVE YOUR SOUL
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bspahn
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seems to me the only hand that you're super happy with on the river is a FLUSH. if you turned a lucky str8 or you had 2 pair / set then you'd probably not insta shove THIS river when villain could indeed have a flush here as played.
if you want to spew with pure air why not just triple barrel this board since there's very little he can call you with since most of his flop calling range is Ax and clubs
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paratrooper99
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its hard to pull off the runner runner flush for bluff. If it happens, awesome, but I am not going to put you on the spades. I would however put you on a straight with the 48 dollar raise on turn. If you spewed on river when a flush shows as it did, I would call the bluff with 2 pair or better. If you have the nuts, would you shove here? Some would 60-40 or less, but a value bet of $60 would make me think you had the straight and I might muck my 2 pair or better even with good odds. Seems to me, you represented the straight on turn and the flush on river. Its either one or the other, both, or nothing and any inconsistency will get you a call more often than not.
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