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Dragon Slayer

01-12-2010, 05:37 PM Post subject: Range/Line check NL100

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26/22/11 over large sample. No real history between us. I posted a hand that went down right before this one, maybe the way i played it would make him react different in this hand?

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($161.90)
BB ($20)
UTG ($21)
MP ($25.25)
Button ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, A

2 folds, Button bets $3, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7) 5

, J

, Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises $16, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($39) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $27, [color=#666666][i]Hero ??

Total pot: $39
Not entirely sure what his range is here.
KK+,JJ,55,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,T9s,98s,87s,AQo,KQo ?
3 betting Pre is an option. On flop thought about checking this as Im sure he is firing a huge part of his range. i guess I was thinking if we C/C I would be unsure of what do on bad turn cards that improve his range. Also thought about Jamming flop.

here is the previous hand if it is relevant.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($101)
SB ($56.90)
BB ($22)
UTG ($20.20)
MP ($109.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, 4

1 fold, MP bets $3, Hero raises $9, SB calls $8.50, 1 fold, MP calls $6

Flop: ($28) 7

, 4

, 5

(3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $20, SB raises $44, 1 fold, Hero raises $53, SB calls $3.90 (All-In)

Turn: ($123.80) 10

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($123.80) 9

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $123.80

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griffey24

01-12-2010, 05:49 PM

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Hand 1
-I'd probably 3bet pre a fair bit.As played, I'd imagine most of his air range that raised your flop donk would be betting here. I would probably c/c turn and re-eval river. A flush is in your range, so I don't expect him to get too out of line on a river jam.

Hand 2
-I'd flat pre sometimes, but as played once you see the flop you gotta go with it.

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minSim

01-13-2010, 07:01 AM

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In hand 1 I'm 3betting the flop and 3betting pre usually.

Hand 2 I'm in the middle of thinking about 3betting or calling these small suited Aces myself, so I don't have an opinion on it yet. Flop is an all in, certainly with SB only having a half stack.

shakesss

01-13-2010, 02:00 PM

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Given the history of the previous hand we can definitely think the guy is tilting a bit. In the first hand he is also sitting with half a stack which i think might mean hes not a very strong player. When the second hand comes up i don't like three betting this spot because

1. he might be on tilt and jam with a worse hand, or call and make us play a 3bet pot oop against a fairly wide range.
2. his opening range on the button will be much weaker than AQ and given his stats and tilt factor we can win a big pot with a good flop.

On the flop i would have liked a big check raise coz of the board texture and we can be pretty sure he will bet it. Against a 11 AF guy i would hate to play streets oop with tptk on such a wet board.

As played i think c/c,c/f and c/shove are all decent but none of them is a really great option. Any picture card or spade puts u in a tough spot oop on the river if u c/c. He has got half his stack in there already and given his aggression he might just ship it coz ur line looks kind weak. c/f would be quite weak but then c/c is quite weak as well. c/shove if u think he is messing around. he could definitely be raising air on the flop and making a turn c bet. by shoving here u could get a call by a lot of worse hands and also the hands that have u screwed while folding out the hands he might barrel the river with.

oop though with ur hand and this opponent i would favor a check shove. if the river bricks ur probably gonna call him neway and will be paying off a made hand. I think u can keep ur decision simple and shove turn.

Dragon Slayer

01-13-2010, 02:57 PM

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Sorry to be more clear in Hand 2 he was the MP that folded. I had originally 3 bet him, but he folded to my flop bet.

shakesss

01-14-2010, 08:24 AM

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I see. That changes things a bit but not too much i think. From my previous assumptions of the guy tilting and raising you out of spite on the flop can be reduced, but i still see a guy with 11 AF raising flop donk bets quite a bit. In my experience playing top pair oop against an aggrieve opponent on that sort of board is always a really messy spot. Many coaches will also tell you to keep your decisions simple oop. I would still advocate a c/f or c/shove. You lost control of the hand on the flop and a really bad card peeled off on the turn. Your hand is marginal in this spot, and while he might be bluffing you sometimes, there are a lot of times he has u beat. It comes down to being read based. If you think he will raise you with air on the flop and follow up on the turn often enough then ship it. If not i think c/f wouldn't be too horrible. c/c'ing and playing the river will be super tough and there are soooo many cards that u will have to fold to if he bets.

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