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Old 02-28-2006, 07:23 PM     Post subject: Raise this river? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is TAG..
Do you raise this river or not and why?
Also if you raise and are reraised all-in do you call?

If someone posts "what do we know about villain?" my auto-response is.. what do you want to know about villain?

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$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, February 28, 15:22:22 ET 2006
Table Astraea (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: LaylaBobbins ( $115.97 )
Seat 5: Evil_Ecstasy ( $122.13 )
Seat 6: Zieg30 ( $173.50 )
Seat 4: nave1er24 ( $40.05 )
Seat 3: emanuele10 ( $70.92 )
Seat 1: Domitor_ ( $98 )
LaylaBobbins posts small blind [$0.50].
emanuele10 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evil_Ecstasy [ As Qs ]
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nave1er24 folds.
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Evil_Ecstasy raises [$3].
Zieg30 calls [$3].
LaylaBobbins calls [$2.50].
emanuele10 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 5d, 7s ]
LaylaBobbins bets [$7].
Evil_Ecstasy raises [$14].
Zieg30 folds.
LaylaBobbins calls [$7].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
LaylaBobbins checks.
Evil_Ecstasy checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
LaylaBobbins bets [$20].
Evil_Ecstasy ???
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Well, you checked behind on the turn to induce the bluff right? What was your plan if he rivered a diamond or 6/8/T.

He could have A9/99... but probably would have bet the turn. He could have A5/A7/55/77, but probably would have re-raised preflop with diamonds out. With AK, he would have done either or both.

The only other hand that beats you is 68. You both have 80-100 behind. I am *a little* concerned that if you raise the river, you will get reraised by a better hand... ah, you can't be afraid of 68 or a boat here. Tags don't call raises pre-flop with 68, do they?

I would raise $50 or so, and gladly call re-raises. Am I crazy? I think he has a weaker ace, but possibly 55 or 77, or possibly 2 diamonds and when the 2nd A falls disbelives you.
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:57 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Well, you checked behind on the turn to induce the bluff right? What was your plan if he rivered a diamond or 6/8/T.

He could have A9/99... but probably would have bet the turn. He could have A5/A7/55/77, but probably would have re-raised preflop with diamonds out. With AK, he would have done either or both.

The only other hand that beats you is 68. You both have 80-100 behind. I am *a little* concerned that if you raise the river, you will get reraised by a better hand... ah, you can't be afraid of 68 or a boat here. Tags don't call raises pre-flop with 68, do they?

I would raise $50 or so, and gladly call re-raises. Am I crazy? I think he has a weaker ace, but possibly 55 or 77, or possibly 2 diamonds and when the 2nd A falls disbelives you.
In 6-max TAGs do call with 68s. Now that im looking at this more and more I am inclined to just call.. espically with the 68 threat which i didnt even see.
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:07 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I think a reraise to $35 or $40 is good if you think you have him beat and you want to get some more out of him if possible.

Or you can go the safe route and call - after all he bet 3/4 on the flop and the river. He have been setting you up on the turn but you didn't bite. AK is a potential holding for him.

If I was in this hand realtime, I'd raise and fold to a reraise.
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:02 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i never raise this river because i hate it when they push
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Bet the turn. As played, call the river as he won't often call with a worse hand, and it sucks to get reraised.
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:41 PM #7 (permalink)  
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if you checked the turn for no other reason than for opp to like his hand then this ios reraise/poosh territory.
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