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Old 10-30-2007, 01:50 AM     Post subject: A-Qs 400NL #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is unknown to me but i do know he is a regular at 400NL. Within the last minute i stacked him at this table with a straightforwardly played set.

he requested time on the turn.


c/c / b/f / c/f on the river?

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CO ($54)
Button ($125.05)
SB ($169.60)
Hero ($857)
UTG ($350)
MP ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A.
1 fold, MP raises to $16, 3 folds, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($34) 8, A, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $24, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($82) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $48, Hero calls $48.

River: ($178) 8 (2 players)
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:28 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Check/call. I doubt he is calling with a wide range here.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Check/call. I doubt he is calling with a wide range here.
Think about the entire hand.

So reraise preflop, bet flop, all in on turn normally.

As played preflop I guess I'd play the same and c/c river.

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Old 10-30-2007, 02:44 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i lean toward check-call...he could bluff or vbet AJ/AQ. i almost wanna c/r but i doubt he'll fold a flush.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:13 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 c/c as played. why didnt you 3-bet pre?
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:56 AM #6 (permalink)  

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Sorry Newbie here, - Is there a question here I dont understand what is being asked. Where is the set? AQ hole cards one ace on board no queen. What do you mean he requested time on turn?

c/c / b/f / c/f on the river? - Is this the betting sequence? If so there was no fold on the turn.

Can someone explain all this.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:55 AM #7 (permalink)  
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the question is what the right move is. AQ might be good here.

check/call
bet/fold river to reraise
check/fold river to bet

on Stars you can request additional time to think longer what to do.

on the hand: I would probably reraise preflop, bet flop, bet turn and then you have more info on where you are. as played I probably check call here too
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:33 PM #8 (permalink)  
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the question is what the right move is.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:55 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Sorry Newbie here, - Is there a question here I dont understand what is being asked. Where is the set? AQ hole cards one ace on board no queen.
The talk of a set was from the previous hand where hero stacked villain.

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What do you mean he requested time on turn?
Online you are given a time limit for each move, to stop players sitting there for 5minutes to make 1 decision. Normally you have a 'time bank'. This means that at any time you think you will take longer than the normal amount of time given, you can use the time in your time bank up to make said decision.

Normally it means they are genuinely thinking how to play the hand. Either indicating a big hand, or calculating draws etc.

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c/c / b/f / c/f on the river? - Is this the betting sequence? If so there was no fold on the turn.
This isn't a betting sequence, it's the right play for the river:
c/c = check/call. So check the river, and call a bet from the villain.
b/f = bet / fold. So bet out and then fold to a re-raise.
c/f = check / fol. Check river, fold to a bet.

OP is asking which one is best for this scenario. It's not the betting sequence for this hand. The actual betting sequence for this hand so far is: c/c, c/c.

As for original post, i'm wondering why you didn't 3bet pre, or bet out on the flop? You have no control over the hand? I think check/call is best given your line but i would've played it more aggresively...

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Old 10-30-2007, 03:15 PM #10 (permalink)  
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vi given no 3bet pre, I'd assume u were setting up a flop cr. But u didn't. Why?
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 Does anyone like a 1/2 pot block on the river?
 
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:30 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Does anyone like a 1/2 pot block on the river?
no i like a c/r all in.
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 I 50/50 3bet/call preflop out of the blinds versus an early position open

I decided not to check/raise on the flop for a couple of reasons

1). i didn't know what i would do if i check/raised, got called, and a third club came on the turn
2). i didn't know what i would do if i check/raised and villain went all in
3). i was hoping to induce my opponent, if he were bluffing, to continue.

i was going to c/c a non club river after i called on the turn, but the 8 seemed like it really helped my range and if he bet on the river it would be much less likely to be a bluff. i figured a 1/3PSB on the river would be a good bet because it would be very easy to fold to a raise. i pretty much turned my hand into a bluff on the river though since A-Q could fold to even a small river bet from me. im not sure he would value bet any ace besides A-K on the river, maybe though.
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:57 PM #14 (permalink)  
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 what's the regs name? I know it shouldn't contribute to the advice but im interested to give you future advice.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:06 PM #15 (permalink)  
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what's the regs name? I know it shouldn't contribute to the advice but im interested to give you future advice.

i don't remember and don't have my computer with PT available.
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i figured a 1/3PSB on the river would be a good bet because it would be very easy to fold to a raise.
Won't a good reg instaraise with anything there?
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:26 AM #17 (permalink)  
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i figured a 1/3PSB on the river would be a good bet because it would be very easy to fold to a raise.
Won't a good reg instaraise with anything there?

that's a good observation, but i also make smallish river bets on boards where i am hoping to induce a bluff/value raise when i have a monster (i.e. full house on the board from my OP).
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:01 AM #18 (permalink)  
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i like c/r on the flop too. villain prob calls with any ace and potentially most pairs since air/FD is likelier than a set, and doesn't think TP is possible. i dunno how to respond to a 3bet either though.
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