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Da GOAT
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01-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Post subject: Probably a really simple hand but...
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Straight Flush
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Opp is a bad nit in this example. Obv its a simple check down vs a station but whats everyone first thought when you see these types of flops. Spewtards think barrel and nits think showdown??
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG OMGUSHOVE ($105.84)
UTG+1 Antoni_H ($91.68)
CO bomboneraX ($100.00)
BTN Hero ($99.00)
SB proxi ($98.00)
BB Mr-T ($101.00)
Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN  
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, proxi calls $2.50, 1 fold
Flop:    ($7, 2 players)
proxi checks, Hero ($96)?
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Muzzard
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4-of-a-Kind
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<Stacks> here from a ABCD theorem standpoint I would think 33 is bordering on range C/Range D.
<Muzzlby> agree
<Stacks> We obviously can't really bet for value. So it's either abet because we don't have a lot of equity and would rather take the pot down against villains unmade hands, or check it and fold to aggression.
<XTR> delayed cbet on overcards rolling off
<Stacks> I think 33 is closer to D because the hands villain is c/cing or likely c/raising with we don't look good against. If he c/c a FD he has 36% equity.. If he c/c with a larger pair we have little equity.
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vaks
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mm yah i like either cbetting or c/f, obv giving up after our cbet fails, but id probably lean more towards c/f most of the time
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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my intial thoughts are that simply cbetting and giving up is bad tho
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Muzzard
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
my intial thoughts are that simply cbetting and giving up is bad tho
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yeah, I thnk u have to double barrel here if you bet flop, if you have 33 or QJ or whatever
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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lol my additional thoughts are if turn and riv are blank to we have to 3 barrel 
if we arent then our turn bet sizing should be larger than usual?
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Muzzard
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
lol my additional thoughts are if turn and riv are blank to we have to 3 barrel
if we arent then our turn bet sizing should be larger than usual? |
yeah I think three barrelling is ok, given the fact he's a nit. I dont think he c/c's much on two streets, that can call a river shovel or big bet. Unless you have history of 3barreling or he likes to c/c 2 streets with the uber nuts!
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BigLRIP
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
my intial thoughts are that simply cbetting and giving up is bad tho
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I agree with this, and think that you should c-bet and double barrel every card if called on the flop, and if he calls twice triple barrel scary river cards.
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nutsinho
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you should c/f some % and cbet/barrel every street if a high card comes some %.
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