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Old 05-31-2007, 08:04 AM     Post subject: Probably just spew without reads... #1 (permalink)  
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Because the board paired on the turn, this is worse now right?


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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with J K
UTG calls, Hero raises to $5, Button calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 9 T 7 ($12.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises to $20, Hero calls.

Turn: 9 ($52.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero raises all-in $88.5
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:37 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't like it against even a little thinking player, it's not even a potsized raise.
He cannot call with a draw though, so just pray...
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:17 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 05-31-2007, 03:25 PM #4 (permalink)  
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why dont you just let go on the flop with no reads

you could also c/f flop if you wanted to.

what are you repping on turn that wouldnt shove flop?
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:44 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Da Goat- he has a double gutter to the nuts and direct odds to draw to it plus deception= HUGE implied
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Implied aren't that huge are they? In fact I think we have reverse implied odds on both the 8's and the spade Q's. Villain's probably not gonna get the stack in on a T987 board without at least a split. Also, since the Q is an overcard to the board he's gonna shut down with a few of the hands that raise the flop.

In general I like folding the flop, especially against unknowns. If we do call the flop, we need to win some pots without hitting the straight. Ie pick of some river bluffs against his flopped pair + draw, perhaps bluff the flush etc.

I don't like bluffing this turn though, I think we get looked up alot here.

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