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Old 12-10-2007, 09:35 AM     Post subject: Probably behind but villain is ultra loose #1 (permalink)  
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Apologies if I keep posting dumbass standard questions but I don't feel high on confidence at the moment.

Villain is 73/41 over 27 hands. Who calls the river?

Starting game 2487933416.

Big_Blindeur is at seat 0 with $25.01.
jmood is at seat 1 with $8.40.
sbedvek is at seat 3 with $16.07.

The dealer is seat 1.

sbedvek posts a blind of $.05.
Big_Blindeur posts a blind of $.10.

(sbedvek is dealt Ac 8h.)

Pre-flop:
jmood folds.
sbedvek raises $.30.
Big_Blindeur calls for $.30.

The flop comes
Ah 10d 10s.

sbedvek bets $.80.
Big_Blindeur calls for $.80.

The turn comes 6s.

sbedvek bets $1.80.
Big_Blindeur calls for $1.80.

The river comes 9d.

sbedvek checks.
Big_Blindeur bets $6.
sbedvek ??
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:57 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Possibly fold pre, as played, muck. I think you can definitely get away with a flop check here - betting flop and turn folds most things you beat, plus you end up playing a big pot with a pissweak hand.
 
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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fold pre 3 handed?? I also would have b/f river to a shove.
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fold pre 3 handed??

Yes, we're out of position with a really shitty ace and by the looks of it we're not sure how to go about things postflop. (no offence kevster!)

Gimme 57s over A8o here any day.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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A8o is a weak hand, esp. OOP. But the less players the better it becomes, especially at 10NL. They still play any Ace 10handed... I do think this is a raising spot pf 3 handed (57s too off course). Anyway postflop try and keep this pot small. I do bet river here (but I would have difference bet sizes on all streets)
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:33 PM #6 (permalink)  
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No way I'm folding this PF. I probably check turn though depending on villain.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:38 PM #7 (permalink)  
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(no offence kevster!)
I'm not programmed to take offence - especially as I've been playing bloody awful in the last few days.

Glad this post has raised a bit of debate though.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:29 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I'm looking at this hand in conjunction with the other hand you posted against the same Villain. It looks like he's taking exactly the same line against you. C/c/Bluff or C/c/ value bet. This is a really standard line taken by lower stakes calling station fools. I think you really need to dictate the action against these players. You are giving Villain the impression that you are double-barrelling with air. Against these stations think value bet, and keep the pot managable. I expect Villain to show up with A weaker ace/ small pp more often than I expect him to have me beat. Even if you are beat you should be able to dictate the showdown price. The other hand all-in on the flop, don't put in 40% of the effective stacks and fold. You'll get called by worst often.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:01 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Check the turn. Fold the river to such a big bet unless he's making a habit out of it.
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