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02-23-2007, 04:19 AM
Post subject: Pretty interesting deep hand.
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Full House
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I posted this in 2 irc rooms and some interesting exchanges followed. I thought it would be a good hand to post.
I have ~250 hands on villain, hes 24/16. I remembered the name and remembered I felt he was tricky. Also his flop af is 5, overall 2.33. I think the turn is the most interesting street. River I think I shouldve pushed, not much interesting here.
(hand converter was acting funny so...)
http://www.pokerhand.org/?847859
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gabe
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he never has a bigger boat after flop action. i push river.
flop/turn are debatable but mixing it up evry now and then vs a regular is fine so i wont criticize.
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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You got great value out of it, nice work. I'm worried he's on a draw, so I'm probably betting the turn, but nh.
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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Wow villain took a sick line for a bluff I really like his play.
How quickly do you fold QQ here? Or do you? (lol I guess the Yeti theorem holds true yet again!)
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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boost
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Full House
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yah I think this was a pretty good bluff line on the flop, river is thin I think. But yah hes folding out a lot of hands with this line.
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zenbitz
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4-of-a-Kind
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villian screws up his bluff when he checks turn, no?
I thought he had like AJ.... I would have bet turn and obv. raise river.
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jackvance
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4-of-a-Kind
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If you make a weakish-looking turn bet he might actually push now that he picked up the draw. Ofcourse that's because I know his hand, but I think it's a good idea in general considering his range of drawy hands and TP/overpairs that are possibly looking to crai, so I'd let him. (river is easy insta-push but he would have folded anyway so no diff)
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by gabe
he never has a bigger boat after flop action. i push river.
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I figured the turn action said he doesn't have a bigger boat. How does the flop action tell us this?
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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zenbitz
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
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Originally Posted by gabe
he never has a bigger boat after flop action. i push river.
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I figured the turn action said he doesn't have a bigger boat. How does the flop action tell us this? |
Why would he three bet the ~uncrackable flopped nuts/2nd nuts/3rd nuts here?
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by zenbitz
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
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Originally Posted by gabe
he never has a bigger boat after flop action. i push river.
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I figured the turn action said he doesn't have a bigger boat. How does the flop action tell us this? |
Why would he three bet the ~uncrackable flopped nuts/2nd nuts/3rd nuts here? |
I like building the pot right from the start with these hands. No one gives you credit enough. I also do this to get money in before a heart hits. Hoping Boost has 9x, AJ, overpair. Maybe I play with too many call stations but I don't let the fact I flopped the nuts slow me from putting money in the pot if my opponent has given me reason to believe he likes his hand.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Genitruc
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He can never have a missed C/R all in on the turn here? I suppose if he respects your game he thinks you'll check behind with most showdown-oriented hands on the turn...
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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