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euphoricism
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09-27-2007, 07:24 PM
Post subject: Played poorly the whole way... except the river?
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4-of-a-Kind
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Fullstacked 50NL. Only 10 hands on villain, and hes run 10/0, which really means nothing. I'm ok with the cold call pre and the flop raise.. but the turn... the river I like, but want to see what you guys think.
Wadmaster: posts small blind $0.25
Paulus_rus: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to euphoricism [8h 8d]
Chrono526: folds
angsthaber: raises $1.50 to $2
DBL_J_22: folds
euphoricism: calls $2
Wadmaster: folds
Paulus_rus: folds
*** FLOP *** [4d 6s 2h]
angsthaber: bets $4
DBL_J_22 leaves the table
euphoricism: raises $8 to $12
angsthaber: calls $8
*** TURN *** [4d 6s 2h] [Jh]
angsthaber: bets $5
euphoricism: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [4d 6s 2h Jh] [3s]
angsthaber: bets $5
euphoricism: raises $35.60 to $40.60 and is all-in
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Kagey
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Any value in shoving the turn? His line looks like an overpair that's scared of the jack trying to get a cheap showdown, so does he fold 99 or 1010? The only hands you look like beating are 88 or Ah6h. Unless he wants you to shove, which seems unlikely.
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raise turn again.
you're pushing the river why?
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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At 50NL i would expect villain to felt Q-Q+ on the flop, maybe J-J too. I expect villain to check/raise turn or 3bet the flop with a set.
Your hand has showdown value against more than enough of his range to make calling profitable, while if you shove you are probably breaking even at best since you only get him to fold hands you were already beating.
I like a small value raise (to like $12) to get value from 6-x, folding if reraised.
turn play is fine.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
raise turn again.
you're pushing the river why?
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Yah I agree, what better hand do you think is folding? Maaaybe 99/TT fold but thats about all I can see folding here that beats you. He won't put you on a straight given the action (unless you would raise 55 on this flop with an insider?)
Just take the cheap showdown I think, you're either ahead or he's calling.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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euphoricism
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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
raise turn again.
you're pushing the river why?
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Because he seems scared that his overpair is beat, and I want to confirm his timidness. Also a draw came in that I could have been raising on the flop.
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euphoricism
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hm ok. Villain folded but I dont know what. I dont think TTish donks the turn, so my money is on AJ, QQ and not much else.
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euphoricism
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but I dont think he'd call a flop raise with AJ.
So im pretty lost. I really think he folded QQ.
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KoRnholio
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I can't see this being AJ. I don't see a villain cbetting and then calling on that flop with AJ. I'd guess a mid pp or QQ when he makes the blocking bet on the river.
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