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05-25-2009, 05:11 AM
Post subject: Planned on hitting my flush and shoving river... but...
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Opponent is a standard tag
The reason I led the flop because I thought someone hit it and I was going to play for stacks on the flop
but the PFR called, I thought I'd bet again to set up a river shove if I hit the flush but then he shoved into me on the turn
I did some quick metal math and came up with 28% equity and 30% equity needed to call so I folded
any better way to play this?
possibly c/r on the flop or check turn after donking
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($100)
CO ($220.20)
Button ($39.95)
Hero (SB) ($244.30)
BB ($134.90)
UTG ($106.25)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 , 8
UTG bets $3.50, MP calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2.50
Flop: ($14) 9 , A , 6 (4 players)
Hero bets $9, 1 fold, UTG calls $9, 1 fold
Turn: ($32) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $30, UTG raises to $93.75 (All-In), Hero folds
Total pot: $92 | Rake: $3
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mcatdog
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this is the worst played hand ive ever seen in this forum
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minSim
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What's wrong with c/c flop? You're basically always facing Ax at least when someone bets this flop.
I don't see why you're eager to play for stacks on the flop with like 50% equity and little to no FE.
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
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this is the worst played hand ive ever seen in this forum
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I keep setting records
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nutsinho
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well planned. You could see that after calling the turn he would have 64$ left in a 92$ pot, but you did not consider the MASSIVE likelihood of him either shoving or dumping to your pot sized lead.
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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well planned. You could see that after calling the turn he would have 64$ left in a 92$ pot, but you did not consider the MASSIVE likelihood of him either shoving or dumping to your pot sized lead.
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obv piss-poor hand planan'
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Da GOAT
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Flop lead is bad. Leading to try get allin on flop is poor. c/c flop is way better. Check turn as played
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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HiLo
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Originally Posted by minSim
I don't see why you're eager to play for stacks on the flop with like 50% equity and little to no FE.
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EV on this type of play alone is fairly neutral but increases the chances of getting our sets paid off on future hands, so on balance works out more profitable????
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griffey24
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Once he calls flop, given he's UTG, his range is likely JJ-KK type hands and strong aces.
He's not folding any aces, and he's prob checking through with the other pairs. Just check turn, c/c if he bets and take your free card the times he checks.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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bigspenda73
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I doubt he even peels with JJ-KK on the flop
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mcatdog
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I'd lead bigger on the flop, and overbet the turn as played, makes it easier to get all-in against a range that destroys you.
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
Flop lead is bad. Leading to try get allin on flop is poor. c/c flop is way better. Check turn as played
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would we like to lead a set on this board? if so, we should lead draws especially against people who can hand-read
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Da GOAT
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I think you will find if we get allin on flop our equity really aint that great vs his flop stacking off range.
i wouldnt lead a set on this flop tho, id c/r. i wouldnt lead a draw into 4 people either.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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