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Irisheyes
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08-02-2006, 12:25 AM
Post subject: And one more
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Button is "TheBlackDeath". He is a good TAGG
player. Prolly 2p2er etc.
No reads on the other guy but he hasn't done anything nuts.
Do I bet the turn here?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($468.60)
Button ($626.45)
SB ($384)
BB ($497.60)
UTG ($128.80)
Hero ($392)
Preflop: Hero is MP with T , T . SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, CO calls $16, Button calls $16, 2 folds.
Flop: ($54) 4 , 7 , 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $36, CO calls $36, Button calls $36.
Turn: ($162) 3 (3 players)
Hero ???
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Fnord
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How have they been playing?
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Irisheyes
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TheBlackDeath has been playing a while. We know each other pretty well anyway.
Other guy maybe 2 orbits
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Fnord
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How often is death betting when checked to on the flop? Turn?
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Irisheyes
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I really couldn't tell you.
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Bet/fold 100$ seems fine to me. 65/86/T8 are pretty likely. BN probably raises the flop with a set, CO slowplays maybe..
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Fnord
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I really hate spots like this. Blasting away into 2-who-knows-whats with a hand that really wants to pot it and be all-in.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I really hate spots like this. Blasting away into 2-who-knows-whats with a hand that really wants to pot it and be all-in.
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Agree. So wtf do we do?
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Irisheyes
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I really don't like to bet here because I feel that one of them has a set >50% or the time.
But still I feel there is value to be extracted.
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arkana
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I am going to say check. If CO bets and button calls\raises then its an easy fold. If CO bets (scary since he just called flop without closing the action) and button folds, or if CO checks and Button bets then its a bit more tricky, you would have to decide whether the CO\Button is aggressive enough to try to pickup a 3-way pot when shown weakness. Definitely not an easy spot, your hand is very transparent and you are out of position. I just dont like the bet/fold line against a good player(s) as that is exactly what they expect you to do.
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Lukie
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
I really don't like to bet here because I feel that one of them has a set >50% or the time.
But still I feel there is value to be extracted.
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I disagree with your assessment that one of these guys has a set >50% of the time, but if that's how you feel, I don't think you should be trying to get any more value out of this hand.
In all honesty, I like the $100 and fold to resistance line that johnny suggested. It might be spew, but it can't be that bad, and I think I'd rather lose the bet here then this pot due to a missed bet.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by arkana
I am going to say check. If CO bets and button calls\raises then its an easy fold. If CO bets (scary since he just called flop without closing the action) and button folds, or if CO checks and Button bets then its a bit more tricky, you would have to decide whether the CO\Button is aggressive enough to try to pickup a 3-way pot when shown weakness. Definitely not an easy spot, your hand is very transparent and you are out of position. I just dont like the bet/fold line against a good player(s) as that is exactly what they expect you to do.
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I see what you're saying, but our hand is so fragile right now but very well still may be best. I really don't want to see a river here...
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gabe
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checking is best move. i would be worried abuot TheBlackDeath since you know he is solid. he wasn't calling the flop with one pair...
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