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Genitruc
Old 01-29-2007, 04:31 PM     Post subject: nl200 Flip for 1k? #1 (permalink)  
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 My image is crazy (45/26ish).

Thoughts here? Villain seems ordinary, I've raised him off a couple pots in past few orbits...

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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 29, 11:26:13 ET 2007
Table Table 125383 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: LegendsNeverDie ( $453.20 )
Seat 4: SakiSakii ( $200 )
Seat 1: HERO ( $620.20 )
Seat 2: Maniacoz ( $0 )
Seat 6: chipbleader_ ( $175 )
Seat 5: wasyourcash ( $200 )
SakiSakii posts small blind [$1].
wasyourcash posts big blind [$2].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO [ 5d 4d ]
chipbleader_ folds.
HERO raises [$7]
LegendsNeverDie raises [$21]
SakiSakii folds.
wasyourcash folds.
HERO calls [$14]

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 9d, Jd ]

HERO bets [$14]
LegendsNeverDie raises [$60]
HERO is all-In… (villain has about 380 behind)
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:10 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think he folds often enough (even though it's not very often) to make this play profitable considering your odds of showing down a winner anyway. It's basically high variance +EV. You asked for it with your image anyway. You came to gamble, so gamble.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:12 PM #3 (permalink)  
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just c/c the flop. I don't like 3betting the flop this deep.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I think you are too deep to be doing this. Play some poker.
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:15 PM #5 (permalink)  
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A agree with these guys.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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 i like this. GAMBooooooooooooooL
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 I think a sick line would be call the flop and c/r the turn all in regardless of the card. If you're really being that loose he's not gonna give you credit if you hit a hand anyway.
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i would rather make it like 200
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I think a sick line would be call the flop and c/r the turn all in regardless of the card. If you're really being that loose he's not gonna give you credit if you hit a hand anyway.
I just realized this sorta sounds like an oxymoron, but I'd just like to clarify. If a diamond comes and you c/r all in he's not going to give u any credit. But if a diamond doesn't he'll probably give u credit.
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I think a sick line would be call the flop and c/r the turn all in regardless of the card. If you're really being that loose he's not gonna give you credit if you hit a hand anyway.
I just realized this sorta sounds like an oxymoron, but I'd just like to clarify. If a diamond comes and you c/r all in he's not going to give u any credit. But if a diamond doesn't he'll probably give u credit.
??? Not sure I understand this.

Felt 100% certain villain had a big pair here. I couldn't see a spot where waiting to get it in on the turn or river could help me to get either

-paid off when I hit
-fold out his hand when I miss

If I'm in position I'm not too worried and just raise it.

I've thought about this spot a lot and can't find a spot I like after either 3-betting the flop or flat-calling. Just figured wtf let's see if this guy can fold a pair, if not, oh well I'm ahead...

I can see the merit of gabe's raise to 200 (then shove any turn or call a 4-bet shove on flop) but I feel like it allows him to play his hand too correctly since I think it unlikely he'll fold to anything but a shove.

And since there's almost 1/2 a buyin in the pot I figured shoving was fine.

Still not sure about this hand.

1 follow-up question :

If you are villain and you have AA what do you do in this spot (considering my image is very laggy)? How about KK/QQ?
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:03 AM #11 (permalink)  
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 I probably convince myself to call if I have AA because I tell myself "this guy is so aggro," but then again, If I really sat down and thought about it and realized your a thinking played I'd fold.

My post about the turn is I think if a diamond hits opp is going to extend your range to Adx, but if a diamond doesn't hit opp may say to himself "wtf! this guy must have something because I'm pretty much pot committed."
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:14 AM #12 (permalink)  
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If I'm villain here I'm calling your all in with AA and probably KK.
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