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04-02-2006, 04:13 AM Post subject: NL200 Crazy Hand (SB Special?)

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(EDIT -- Sorry guys, I tried posting this with the converter but it messed up a few of the numbers so I'm just using PP's HH)

I tried out 4-tabling 6-max and I ran into this insane hand.

I actually had semi-solid reads on these guys. BB is a gambler who likes to chase draws and UTG is a somewhat solid player.

***** Hand History for Game 3869230006 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, April 01, 22:12:44 ET 2006
Table Lanecoorie (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Harry_77 ( $268.31 )
Seat 2: Caratheodory ( $207.25 )
Seat 4: tryan1996 ( $588.36 )
Seat 5: Titus8888 ( $166 )
Seat 6: psulion666 ( $112.35 )
Seat 3: UltimateGW ( $206.50 )
UltimateGW posts small blind [$1].
tryan1996 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to UltimateGW [ 7s 9c ]
Titus8888 calls [$2].
psulion666 folds.
Harry_77 folds.
Caratheodory calls [$2].
UltimateGW calls [$1].
tryan1996 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 9d, 7c ]
UltimateGW bets [$7].
tryan1996 calls [$7].
Titus8888 raises [$14].
Caratheodory calls [$14].
UltimateGW raises [$93].
tryan1996 calls [$93].
Titus8888 is all-In.
Harry_77: wow
Caratheodory folds.
UltimateGW calls [$64].
tryan1996 calls [$64].

Okay, initially on the flop I bet out to see where I was at in the hand. The BB called and it was obvious to me that he was on some sort of draw, either a straight or flush draw. When UTG min-raised the pot I put him on a strong draw as well, but I did *not* put him on a made hand. When the button called it was easy to see he was drawing too.

So, it looks like everyone's drawing except for me.

Amirite in thinking that? If somebody else had a made hand (set or straight) then wouldn't they want to raise it a little more to give worse odds for drawing to a flush? What if a scare card hits (diamond), then their made hand goes out the window. So as I see it, *I* have the made hand here......maybe, or maybe not.

Anyway, there's a LOT of money in the pot, I think everyone's drawing.....So I decide to raise the motherfucking roof. $100 seemed like a good number at the time (if my reads are correct).

So I bet $100.....and then the BB calls. I'm okay with this, he likes to gamble. OMG WTF UTG IS ALL IN I JUST POOPED MYSELF. Well, having decided to already pot-fuck myself I have got to call his all-in. On the turn, it's obvious I have to push no matter what comes.....

** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
UltimateGW is all-In.
tryan1996 calls [$40.50].
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]

Final pot = $592

Is my thinking correct here or am I crazy? Should I have called the min-raise and raised big on any non-scare card? I can't check any non-scare card b/c that lets everyone else draw for free, as I'm OOP here.

Thoughts, suggestions, opinions on what should have been done here are always appreciated.

Also, please look at the results after you write a reply.

UltimateGW shows [ 7s, 9c ] two pairs, nines and sevens.
tryan1996 shows [ Kd, 8d ] high card king.
Titus8888 doesn't show [ Qd, Ad ] high card ace.
UltimateGW wins $81 from side pot #1 with two pairs, nines and sevens.
UltimateGW wins $511 from the main pot with two pairs, nines and sevens.

Results above in white.

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zenbitz

04-02-2006, 05:02 AM

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I got to admit, I think 2 pair no good here.
Flopped straights have to guard against the f/d.. sets want to get it all in on the flop here.

I guess your re-raise is good here... but I think you fold to the re-re-raise pot odds be damned. It sucks, but I think you're 2nd best here. With 99 I think you get it all in here or the turn happily, but not 2 pair. Heck, you are counterfieted by another T.

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aislephive

04-02-2006, 06:06 AM

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I would really have to think this play is -EV in the long run. With bottom two pair here and this much action I would have to think you are either way behind or barely ahead, and against most players you won't be ahead. I would expect to see hands like T9, T7, J8, and 68 more often than I would a big drawing hand. And yes, even though you were correct that they were both drawing they still have a lot of outs against you. And there will be times when you are drawing almost dead here so that's something to keep in mind.

Nice pot anyways, though.

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