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Halv
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11-06-2007, 11:29 PM
Post subject: NFD+GS becomes idiot straight OOP in limped pot, line check
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UTG runs 40/11/1.5 over ~100 hands, don't know much else about him.
My image is pretty aggressive over maybe 40 hands at the table, don't remember having shown anything down in significant pots though.
400NL, 6 players
Button ($463.00)
HalvSame ($644.90)
BB ($144.76)
UTG ($272.00)
UTG+1 ($656.96)
CO ($442.90)
Preflop: HalvSame is in the SB with A 4
UTG calls 4.00, 3 folds, HalvSame calls 2.00, BB checks.
Flop (12.00) 5 3 9
HalvSame bets 12.00, 1 fold, UTG calls 12.00.
Turn (36.00) 2
HalvSame bets 36.00, UTG calls 36.00.
River (108.00) 6
HalvSame bets 66.00, UTG raises 220.00 (all-in), HalvSame calls 154.00
Final Pot 548.00
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IowaSkinsFan
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cmon dude seriously
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mixchange
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river is a check call
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IowaSkinsFan
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mixchange
river is a check call
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maybe
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IowaSkinsFan
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yeah sorry for annoying response this may not be a call, i didnt realize the raise was more than pot.
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mixchange
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yeah, its marginal
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you can be my black kate moss tonight
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Genitruc
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nh prob should be put in bad beats forum
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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IowaSkinsFan
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[quote="IowaSkinsFan"]Edit: Oops nvm, well i mean now im almost positive its a call, but another thing is i know realize your asking should you bet river or not, and i def think you should looking at the hand again./quote]
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Originally Posted by mixchange
river is a check call
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Nah i disagree. I think you get a call from one pair here a lot but not a bet. Who knows if this guy will bluff missed draws too... i'm gonna say no, nor do i think that he has a missed draw here a lot.
And considering that this guy is a donk, that he probably doesn't put you a straight from the way you played it, and also that unless he had 78dd i doubt he'd call two pot sized bets with 78, you really just can't fold the river. 74 seems a like a bit of a stretch too.
I wouldn't be surprised to see AA, KK, or a set here.
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Halv
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Thanks people, I wasn't sure if I should lead the river because I wouldn't be sure of what the right move was if he shoved. I didn't consider that he isn't gonna shove very often, so it should definitely be a bet no matter how I respond to the shove. Is river bet size maybe a tad on the small side?
Results in white:
He didn't shove, he called with the mighty J5o! Note taken.
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i like check/call
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Thanks people, I wasn't sure if I should lead the river because I wouldn't be sure of what the right move was if he shoved. I didn't consider that he isn't gonna shove very often, so it should definitely be a bet no matter how I respond to the shove. Is river bet size maybe a tad on the small side?
Results in white:
He didn't shove, he called with the mighty J5o! Note taken.
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Take note of who's advice to listen to also 
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Dude are you playing against rippy or something!?
I don't like c/c because we have some of the diamonds.
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mixchange
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Mass, IMO the results show why check/call is best... most villains aren't going to be resourceful enough to re-raise on the river like that with a bluff, but many will fire 2/3-full pot and we gain more value. I don't see a pair of 5s just calling here on the river if we bet it.
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