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Old 02-06-2008, 09:27 PM     Post subject: My short stay at 25NL #1 (permalink)  
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Just so you know poker office does showdown % differently, it's based on your total number of hands.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:41 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:46 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand check:

#1 opp. is an aggressive donk. He's raised with air before but it's not like he's a maniac about it. 44/5/5

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Hero ($34.05)
Button ($25.60)
SB ($39.25)
BB ($23.40)
UTG ($25.30)
MP ($26.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.95) J, T, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.95, SB calls $1.95.

Turn: ($5.85) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $10, Hero raises to $36.25 (All-In), SB calls $22.25.

River: ($70.35) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $74.35

#2 Another donk, this one not so aggressive. 45/3/2 The board is dry enough and he is calling with enough crap that I think this is wrong.

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SB ($32.45)
Hero ($61.65)
UTG ($26.80)
Button ($32.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.25, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.25) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.3, Button raises to $9.9, SB folds, Hero calls $7.60.

Turn: ($23.05) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $21.9 (All-In), Hero calls $21.90.

River: ($0) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $66.85

#3: Another aggressive donk. I don't know if he's raised with air but it seems likely given how he has been playing. 41/3/7


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CO ($25.35)
Button ($24.50)
SB ($28.15)
BB ($26.35)
UTG ($31.65)
Hero ($24.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.95) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $4.75, Hero raises to $16, SB raises to $32.05 (All-In), Hero calls $9.35 (All-In).

Turn: ($52.65) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($52.65) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $59.35

#4: only have 35 hands on opp but he has been hyper aggressive, 27/23/11
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BB ($24.10)
UTG ($23.30)
MP ($65.70)
Hero ($26.45)
Button ($11.30)
SB ($66.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, 3 folds.

Flop: ($2.05) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($2.05) (2 players)
UTG bets $2.05, Hero raises to $6, UTG raises to $24.5 (All-In), Hero calls $16.45.

River: ($46.95) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $49

#5: Against unknown, worst 3 barrel ever?

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CO ($14.55)
Hero ($44.65)
SB ($25.40)
BB ($10)
UTG ($25.60)
MP ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.85, MP calls $0.85.

Flop: ($3.40) , , (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2.5, BB folds, MP calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.40) (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6, MP calls $6.

River: ($20.40) (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $10, MP raises to $15.15 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $40.4
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:38 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 5) i think folding is an error here. You priced yourself into calling there (yes, with K-high).
You are getting about 8:1 to call
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 one thing that kind of popped out at me is that you never c/r any street.

and in #5 theres no point in calling for anything other than info. i dont care if you are getting 8:1 you are never ever remotely close to winning here. also if you plan on bluffing him here you should just shove, especially if you are planning on calling a shove.
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Even if it isn't important for the answers to your questions about to play.... would be nice to see how it went down and to see the results then. I see here some many people posting hands without to get to the showdon then.
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Even if it isn't important for the answers to your questions about to play.... would be nice to see how it went down and to see the results then. I see here some many people posting hands without to get to the showdon then.
translation? results are hidden on purpose so that there is an unbiased disscusion on the hands. OP can post results at a later time.
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:37 PM #9 (permalink)  
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5) i think folding is an error here. You priced yourself into calling there (yes, with K-high).
You are getting about 8:1 to call
No way is this a call, yeah you get 8-1 on the call but he is going to show up like less than 1% of the time with a hand we beat - making it a CLEAR fold.

It looks like a) You are running very very bad or b) Your game needs some major adjustments. I think it is probably the latter, but I'm no good at deciphering the stats. Here are mine over a similar sample.
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 LOL, call $5 to win $40, I make this call all day, every day, and twice on Sundays with K-high

The thing is, the betting that got us there is whacked, because of the effective stacks

You should never be in this situation, but once there, folding is bad



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Old 02-07-2008, 03:56 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I bet 10 on the river specifically so I could fold and save 5 bucks to a push. My thinking

A) If he was drawing and missed he can't call
B) He should know he has no chance of me folding if he pushes with a missed draw
C) I'm not calling 8:1 with K high there ever.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:06 PM #12 (permalink)  
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It looks like a) You are running very very bad or b) Your game needs some major adjustments. I think it is probably the latter, but I'm no good at deciphering the stats. Here are mine over a similar sample.
I'm pretty sure it's both. One leak I found was I am losing money overall whenever I call preflop. Simple solution, call less. I'll probably start playing 18/15 instead of 22/15. In fact, since posting this I've switched to that game and I've been winning over 2k hands with it, so looking good at first.

I'm running bad, like usual, there's no doubt about that.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:32 PM #13 (permalink)  
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one thing that kind of popped out at me is that you never c/r any street.
There doesn't seem to be many opportunities to c/r at these stakes...i could be wrong though.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:42 PM #14 (permalink)  
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LOL, call $5 to win $40, I make this call all day, every day, and twice on Sundays with K-high
It's only good if we think we are ahead more than 11% of the time, which is never. Otherwise we are just blowing another $5. If you can convince me Villain is bluffing with less than king high >11% then go for it.
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