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Old 08-22-2006, 07:14 AM     Post subject: My play sucks please help #1 (permalink)  
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No reads here. So in a vaccuum how are you playing this flop? After playing the flop the way I played it how are you playing the turn?

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BB ($42.35)
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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 5, 6, 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $4, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($24.50) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, Button raises to $29.5, BB folds, Hero calls $14.50.
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd bet the flop. Turn is meh. Since there are 2 other ppl in the pot I'd prob c/c since your FE is probably not very high. What kind of made hand do you play this way?
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:21 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd bet the flop. Turn is meh. Since there are 2 other ppl in the pot I'd prob c/c since your FE is probably not very high. What kind of made hand do you play this way?
Good question. I don't think I'd play a made hand this way except Qxhh.
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:22 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd bet the flop. Turn is meh. Since there are 2 other ppl in the pot I'd prob c/c since your FE is probably not very high. What kind of made hand do you play this way?
Also, I don't bet alot of these flops when I'm the middle man because I'm afraid of being blown off my draw. How do you react to a push if you bet $8?
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:29 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't think I'd play a made hand this way except Qxhh.
You don't bet the flop w/Qxhh?

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Also, I don't bet alot of these flops when I'm the middle man because I'm afraid of being blown off my draw. How do you react to a push if you bet $8?
Obv you fold to a push, but you are not betting this flop based on the strength of your draw. You are betting to take it down right away, and the fact that you have a draw is nice b/c you have outs if called, along with a backdoor NFD and possible overcard(s). (I'd probably check this flop with AK but not A8d)

On the turn, your logic is backwards. You DON'T bet the turn b/c you don't want to be blown off a sweet draw, half of which is fairly hidden (flush draw). Your weird line is very exploitable to a good player, although these guys probably aren't very good.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:30 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Lead flop (though a c/c is better if you know that your opps are calling c-bets lightly), c/c turn.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:43 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I like a turn bet if you were hu after the flop. It sets up nice river bluffs if the draws miss.

Bet flop.
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