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Old 07-14-2005, 08:12 PM     Post subject: My God, I love the fish #1 (permalink)  
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The first guy I almost feel a bit sorry for, but the second guy - I'm pretty sure he had that coming. These hands were back to back:

***** Hand History for Game 2362994322 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, July 14, 15:40:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 55302 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: JD_KILLER ( $105.40 )
Seat 5: stressball10 ( $94.50 )
Seat 4: ShuG007 ( $42.65 )
Seat 6: Scarypooper5 ( $27.70 )
Seat 3: hawks1400 ( $87.65 )
Seat 2: bohlarama ( $33.10 )
ShuG007 posts small blind [$0.50].
stressball10 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ Qs Jc ]
Scarypooper5 raises [$2].
bohlarama folds.
hawks1400 calls [$2].
ShuG007 calls [$1.50].
stressball10 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Ts, 9d ]
ShuG007 checks.
stressball10 bets [$3].
Scarypooper5 calls [$3].
hawks1400 calls [$3].
ShuG007 calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
ShuG007 checks.
stressball10 bets [$23].
Scarypooper5 folds.
hawks1400 calls [$23].
ShuG007 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
stressball10 bets [$60].
hawks1400 is all-In [$59.65]
stressball10 shows [ Qs, Jc ] a straight, nine to king.
hawks1400 doesn't show [ Th, Kc ] two pairs, kings and tens.
stressball10 wins $0.35 from side pot #1 with a straight, nine to king.
stressball10 wins $183.30 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.

***** Hand History for Game 2362997671 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, July 14, 15:41:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 55302 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: JD_KILLER ( $105.40 )
Seat 5: stressball10 ( $190.15 )
Seat 4: ShuG007 ( $37.65 )
Seat 6: Scarypooper5 ( $22.70 )
Seat 3: hawks1400 ( $0 )
Seat 2: bohlarama ( $33.10 )
stressball10 posts small blind [$0.50].
Scarypooper5 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ Qc Qs ]
bohlarama folds.
ShuG007 calls [$1].
stressball10 raises [$2.50].
Scarypooper5 calls [$2].
ShuG007 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 3h, 3c ]
stressball10 bets [$4].
Scarypooper5 calls [$4].
ShuG007 calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
stressball10 bets [$31].
Scarypooper5 is all-In [$15.70]
ShuG007 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
stressball10 shows [ Qc, Qs ] a full house, Queens full of threes.
Scarypooper5 doesn't show [ 8h, 4h ] two pairs, fours and threes.
stressball10 wins $15.30 from side pot #1 with a full house, Queens full of threes.
stressball10 wins $50.40 from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of threes.
Scarypooper5 has left the table.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:33 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 On the first hand, since you're holding the nuts, do you think a smaller turn bet may have encouraged more callers? Don't get me wrong, I like the hammer droppage going on there, but with that hand I don't fear too much. I'll prefer more people tagging along since everyone called the flop bet anyway... A weaker bet may have encouraged someone to come over the top of you as well, with such a big pot seemingly up for grabs... I would have bet like $9 - $12 or something, then drop it on the river. VNH though.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I pretty much always bet into short stacks like that when I have a made hand. They call a surprisingly large amount of the time with often next to nothing - a pair or worse. Against another big or average stack I'd value bet or get tricky, but against these dipshits with less than half a buy-in, I'm just trying to get all their chips in the middle as quickly as possible. They call so much, it's actually surprising to me when one folds.
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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i like betting into short stack like that, too, dale. i just noticed that recently, but you're right, way too many calls there by them with inferior hands. i think everyone should try to learn when that play is appropriate because it does work.
In answer to your question... it depends...
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
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So true. Shortstacks always think you're bluffing and they love to commit themselves to a pot with any piece of the board.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:13 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Or they are on tilt and welcome the opportunity to throw all of their chips if they hit a piece of the board...
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