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Numbr2intheWorld
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10-04-2007, 08:51 PM
Post subject: Multiway river bluff.
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CO in this hand is a TAGG, BB is a loose donk. I have a solid image.
The flop is obviously a spew since there's a chance the BB will c/r, i'm oop, and i have a shitty draw. However, i feel like my line is almost always two pair or better and the BB and CO most likely have neither. Good bluff?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($214.30)
MP ($218.45)
CO ($309.95)
Button ($387)
Hero ($198)
BB ($351.55)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , Q .
2 folds, CO raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, BB raises to $14, CO calls $5, Hero calls $5.
Flop: ($38) A , 7, T (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20, BB calls $20.
Turn: ($98) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks.
River: ($98) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $70
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silu73
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I can't see this work. HU yes but multiway is spew imho.
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dsaxton
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Why even call the flop? It's going to cost you too much to win a pot that might even be unwinnable unless you hit your gutshot.
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Deanglow
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Man I wish people folded A8 here to make this profitable...... but they don't so don't even think about it.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I like all in.
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Alexos
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I really don't like this...All-in could work, but rly theres no valid reason to do this against loose donks
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mixchange
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I don't see why we aren't folding turn. Even if we hit our gutshot, we could be drawing dead.
I actually don't think the river play is *that* bad, but only if our opponents are very weak/tight players. Against 75% of players i think its total spew
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Alexos
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Yea wtf, open fold turn goddammit!! 
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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I think you should bet the turn. CO probably doesn't have a draw since he bet the flop last to act, and BB calls with a wide range on the flop so his overcall isn't as scary. This way your bet also has the most implied threat.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
Man I wish people folded A8 here to make this profitable...... but they don't so don't even think about it.
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Why would the CO call with A8, he's a TAGG not a donk. I was pretty sure he was folding, i was kinda worried about the BB though.
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Deanglow
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Originally Posted by Massimo
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
Man I wish people folded A8 here to make this profitable...... but they don't so don't even think about it.
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Why would the CO call with A8, he's a TAGG not a donk. I was pretty sure he was folding, i was kinda worried about the BB though. |
I meant the donk of course.
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Alexos
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But we really dont want to get raised on turn, I dont like betting into 2 players with a reasonable draw and no idea what to put them on..
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Originally Posted by Alexos
But we really dont want to get raised on turn, I dont like betting into 2 players with a reasonable draw and no idea what to put them on..
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I missed that Hero had the  in his hand.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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Genitruc
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looks like you re a bad player and you have a flush
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Alexos
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huh
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Genitruc
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Originally Posted by Alexos
huh
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-my cards are sooted preflop i call
-i haves a draw i call
-i haz a flush on turn i CHEX tricky tricky
-hmm i wants some value let s bet not too big so i can makes some moniez
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Alexos
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hahaha, i concurz
Donk opponent :
- I has sooted cards preflop, zomg I press raise button insta
-Nice flop chase flush, call
-Hit flush, slowplay
-Lol Massimo fell into trap im da best player in the world, minraise again, profit
repeat steps above for any Ax hands that hit 2pair somewhere
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Eh, i highly doubt the donk has anything good (I don't think this is unreasonable) but he may call anyway.
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