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benny999

11-05-2006, 07:41 AM Post subject: multiway reraised pot with overpair

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I just played some 100nl 6max on bodog and wonder about this one.
Basically, even though I am probably wa/wb, should I just go for broke on the turn?
Also, what do you think about my pre flop and flop bet size?

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Big stack villain (HJ) is an uberdonk. he's really loose, and mostly passive, except he min raises pre flop with a ton of hands.
here's some relevant hands -
Early on, he min raised then called my reraise pre flop with A9o then called down my strong flop and river bets, even when the board was 9 J K J T. I had KQ.
The only other time he raised 3xbb was with 44 where he cbet an ace high flop OOP, checked the turn, then bluffed a blank river.

I didn't have much for reads on SB or Button, but button seems loose-passive, and SB seemed tag based only on one hand. I'm tag, cbetting often after I pfr, but not playing too much.

alright here's the hand...

SB - $151
BB - unimportant
UTG - unimportant
HJ - $384
CO - me with JJ, $134
Button - $122

Pre Flop
UTG calls $1, HJ raises to $3, I reraise to $9, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, Villain calls

Flop - $38, 4 players (sheot!) T

SB checks, HJ checks, I bet $25, button folds, SB calls, HJ calls.

Turn - $113, 3 players T

SB checks, (edit - HJ checks), I ???? (about $100 left...)

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11-05-2006, 08:27 AM

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Push and spike a Jack on the river.

I'm probably just checking here, actually, and seeing what the guy behind me and SB do before I proceed with this hand. If we bet anything we've got to go all the way with this hand, and I don't know if I want to do that with JJ here. Sure, it's Bodog, but seeing how the action has gone down up to the turn it's difficult to be sure that we're good here.

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11-05-2006, 10:35 AM

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SB worries me, checking worries me more and the HJ's terrible play is giving us a crapload of overlay to offset the times we do run into a hand.

I close my eyes and shove because the HJ is an ATM machine, your flop bet might mean nothing to the SB and it's a big pot worth putting your stack behind to win.

Then again, $50 intending on calling any raise and stick the rest in on any river might be a better value play if it gets HJ to continue with hands worse than top pair.

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benny999

11-05-2006, 08:01 PM

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yea I was really unsure because of the SB's play. I guess at this point pushing or checking both have merits...

But do you guys think betting the flop stronger would've been better?
I was trying to leave enough behind to get away if it became obvious SB hit a set (pretty much not worried about the others), but now I'm not sure if I got called by a missed PP too.

benny999

11-07-2006, 03:40 AM

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so, anybody think a stronger flop bet would be better?

That way I am more likely to get HU vs the ATM, although more likely causes SB to fold 33-type hands...

griffey24

11-07-2006, 02:09 PM Post subject: preflop raise

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Personally, I think I would want to raise stronger preflop (12-14) to make sure we isolate with just HJ (since UTG had limped). If SB cold calls a stronger raise PF and calls the flop, I think we should maybe be worried.

I would also probably bet the flop stronger to show we aren't leaving this hand. As played, SB, HJ may put you on AK/AQ overs.

Raise PF stronger, bet flop stronger. If SB sticks around in both of these cases, then he either has midpair 8's, 9's and doesn't believe you (in which case he has 2 outs) or has an overpair, set and we're WB. In this case, I say check behind the turn... I'm not too worried about HJ.

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11-07-2006, 04:55 PM

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the way you played it from the beginning, not bad btw, i think you have to "crying shove" here...

hope for the best from the river Gods. if you check, you have to fold, imo. and if you bet anything you commit yourself. may as well shove it now and put them to the test. granted, they probably call.

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