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Old 06-23-2006, 10:53 PM     Post subject: Muck this flopped TT set or not? #1 (permalink)  
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Hero ($218.80)
SB ($198)
BB ($96.75)
UTG ($202.55)
MP ($190.58)
CO ($258)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $8, CO calls $8, Hero calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($27) J, K, T (3 players)
MP bets $25, CO raises to $75.4.

neither guy has PAH stats yet.
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Crap, what a spot. I think I go broke here though, but you could fold here and play it safe as well.
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:16 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I call. Two pair and the like might play like this. If you push you might fold them out. Just call em down, push the river if you have to.
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:55 AM #4 (permalink)  
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that is some flop. my first inclination is to push. KK, JJ and AQ are only hands ahead. but at least you can go ahead of AQ on paired board while it has a hard time improving past you even more. if you're up against overset it's just tough. hands like AK, AJc, AJo, AQc, AQo, KJ and QQ are all behind and ur way ahead of everything else. you might get a loose call from an OESD + pair, that happens more often in multiway pots than HU.
In answer to your question... it depends...
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Old 06-24-2006, 06:05 AM #5 (permalink)  
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you can't fold this

either call or push

you lose? man that's poker



EDIT: Gah....just reread the hand history. My thoughts still stand.....but damn that's a tough spot.


 
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Old 06-24-2006, 06:42 AM #6 (permalink)  
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i dont fold flopped sets for anybody!
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Old 06-24-2006, 08:44 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2006, 09:15 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I'm fooling myself



PUSH LIKE THER IS NO TOMORROW


 
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Old 06-24-2006, 12:44 PM #10 (permalink)  
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all-in.

Think of all the 2 pair/draw/combo draw type hands that you have crushed.
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Old 06-24-2006, 12:44 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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PUSH LIKE THER IS NO TOMORROW
^^^

this guy is a raging alcoholic.
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Old 06-24-2006, 01:26 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate George
I'm fooling myself



PUSH LIKE THER IS NO TOMORROW
^^^

this guy is a raging alcoholic.
Yea, you probably get bored waiting for all your students to finish up their tests so why not down a beer or nine while you're waiting?

But yea I agree with UG push like this is no tommorrow and if you get called by a better hand you have either 1 out or a bunch of outs. Lose a buyin oh well thats why you're supposed to be overolled.
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:00 PM #13 (permalink)  
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People arent nearly as aggressive with their pair + FD combo type hands at 200nl and I dont think the decision is as easy as most posters have suggested. If CO is a good tight player then i muck.
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate George
I'm fooling myself



PUSH LIKE THER IS NO TOMORROW
^^^

this guy is a raging alcoholic.
Don't be jealous.

I'm about to go run 6 miles right now.



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Old 06-24-2006, 08:02 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Push. CO will call with his 2p/draw. You're realistically only behind to AQ (but with 30% equity).

Btw, AA/QQ is also in his range if KK/JJ is.
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:45 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Acutally, I mucked this hand to the raise.

results: MP pushes, CO calls. MP has AK, CO has AQ.

So maybe not the correct fold, but I saved myself a stack in this case.
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