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02-14-2010, 08:33 PM
Post subject: More 50NL spots.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain is 27/8 over 70 hands. I figured if he has anything that can call a bet here he's likely betting himself so opted to c/r the flop. The turn sucks, but he'll still call with 2 pair and sets. I really want to c/f this river and see nothing I'm ever beating.
I guess he can have a missed fd sometimes, but I'm not sure he bluffs the river too often given how much strenght I've just shown in an unraised pot.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($51.05)
Hero (BB) ($60.30)
UTG ($54.55)
MP ($59.70)
CO ($50)
Button ($55.30)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , 2
UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero checks
Flop: ($1.25) 4 , 3 , 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises $3.50, UTG calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.25) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, UTG calls $5.50
River: ($19.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $12
2. Villain - 26/17 ATS of 38% over 40 hands. He seems pretty aggro and has been 3-betting and opening a bunch.
He c-bets flop with a really wide range and probably bets a lot of air on the turn aswell. I figured he'd fold everything but good Ks+ to this line and I haz likely 7 outs if called. Like/dislike?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($23.80)
MP ($50.50)
Hero (Button) ($53.55)
SB ($133.35)
BB ($54.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , J
1 fold, MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($3.75) 7 , K , 3 (2 players)
MP bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.75) Q (2 players)
MP bets $6, Hero raises $16.50, 1 fold
Total pot: $20.75
3. Villain's just sat down, so no reads. I assume he's not very good given his BI amount.
Didn't want to be shoving river here since I felt his range was probably weak pairs and missed draws, how's this sizing look?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($23.80)
MP ($50.50)
Hero (Button) ($53.55)
SB ($133.35)
BB ($54.45)
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (3 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($32.90)
Hero (BB) ($68.50)
Button ($36.10)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , 2
1 fold, SB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.50
Flop: ($4) 2 , 6 , 5 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2
Turn: ($8) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50
River: ($21) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.50,
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minSim
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1- I always lead flop. You don't want it to check through for various reasons and a c/r is very strong, a bet leaves your range wide.
As played, I'm betting the turn larger, you're still ahead almost always and there's a lot of value from pairs+draws.
I would most likely b/f the river myself because I see all sorts of weird stuff from weak players here, including a lot of overpairs which aren't being bet a lot. (as played I'd still c/c).
River decision I'm not really sure wether to b/f or c/c.
2- I like calling turn more then raising. He will be barreling the river with air almost never, so you can fold to a bet and bet yourself when checked to.
3- I'd make it like 1/3psb or less or a shove. This is a pretty weird sizing considering effective stacks, imo.
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shakesss
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2009
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!. It looks to me like he might have a set here. He limps utg and calls a c/r otf. calls a bet on the turn where he is likely beat, and then bets pretty big on the river when he fills up. i think a seven would play it a bit different on the turn. I would probably fold here.
2. I like it. you obv had a good read on him and his tendencies and pulled off an effective bluff. I would always bet river on a lot of cards if i got called though.
3. The river bet could be smaller IMO. looks like he has some sort of pocket pair under 10's or something, something with decent showdown value. i think i would go for 8-10.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by minSim
1- I always lead flop. You don't want it to check through for various reasons and a c/r is very strong, a bet leaves your range wide.
As played, I'm betting the turn larger, you're still ahead almost always and there's a lot of value from pairs+draws.
I would most likely b/f the river myself because I see all sorts of weird stuff from weak players here, including a lot of overpairs which aren't being bet a lot. (as played I'd still c/c).
River decision I'm not really sure wether to b/f or c/c.
2- I like calling turn more then raising. He will be barreling the river with air almost never, so you can fold to a bet and bet yourself when checked to.
3- I'd make it like 1/3psb or less or a shove. This is a pretty weird sizing considering effective stacks, imo.
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1. I agree I should bet the turn harder here, for the reason you stated, I'm probably missing a bit of value with this sizing vs his range. As for leading the flop, I think the times it checks through are largely times hes has very little and doesn't make the best hand on the turn like ever, nor does he call a flop lead on this board, that was my rational. He had a 100% c bet stat over like 3 occassions so I guess I took this as a sign he may bet this flop pretty wide.
2. I disagree totally with you on this. This guy was imo aggro enough to bet the river as a bluff a fair amount. Also, just because he checks the river to us doesn't mean we have a ton of fold equity, I think most weak to medium kings and good queens will take a c/c line here and own us - hands that may fold to this strong looking turn line.
3. Since I don't think any of his range is really calling a shove here often at all, I guess betting smaller has merits, but I think I'm getting c/r'ed almost never vs this likely fish, so I don't think the SPR here really matters, I was just trying to find the maximum bet that a weak player may pay off with a weak range. Can you elaborate on what you dislike about it a bit?
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