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Old 03-05-2007, 03:03 AM     Post subject: Mmmm TPTK #1 (permalink)  
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Table 'Caprera' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: fonz14777 ($135.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Renton555 ($206.90 in chips)
Seat 4: jeff1515 ($123.05 in chips)
Seat 5: ConeSnail9 ($231.75 in chips)
Seat 6: DCal Zone ($399.90 in chips)
DCal Zone: posts small blind $1
fonz14777: posts big blind $2
trplthrt: sits out

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [Ah Ks]

Renton555: raises $6 to $8
jeff1515: folds
ConeSnail9: folds
DCal Zone: folds
fonz14777: calls $6

*** FLOP *** [2h As 4d]

fonz14777: checks
Renton555: bets $12
fonz14777: calls $12

*** TURN *** [2h As 4d] [9s]

fonz14777: checks
Renton555: bets $28
fonz14777: raises $44 to $72
Renton555:

Villain is a loose donk over a very small sample. I have no clue how agg he is.

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Old 03-05-2007, 03:08 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 meh, this is really close. he has like 40 behind. He has 135 so hes prob kinda donkish and u have a good amount of outs versus A2 and A4. But idk i prob fold since i cant concievably put him on something u are beating.
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Old 03-05-2007, 03:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 well im sure he's capable of having AQ here, but i don't know if thats enough to make it a push
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Old 03-05-2007, 03:35 AM #4 (permalink)  
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If I would have a solid read on him as a loose donk I would push. Without a read I might just muck it as A9 is certainly in his range. However, I have seen real donks showing AQ here a lot but then the read was strong.
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 I dont know if I could get away from TPTK here vs a shortstack. We cant forget that villain could have a spade draw as well.


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it's close but I think you're beat often enough to fold, at least until you know more about how aggro/donkish he is.
however, if he had raised the flop, i almost for sure would felt.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 This is very close but I think if you're going through with this you should be pushing over top of his CR since a fish will call when trailing all day after committing that much $...

Very tough to fold this vs a fish but it's not terrible. I think I push slightly more frequently than I fold if villain is indeed bad.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:34 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 I don't lay this down. I generally don't give shorties respect, especially if they are loose donks. We did raise UTG but I don't think they give thought to that and put us on a good hand, even after post flop action. Us having an aggro (at least preflop) image makes it even better. This is a bare A or random junk enough to get it in imho.

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 I usually check the flop then bet turn and river
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 03-05-2007, 12:22 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I usually check the flop then bet turn and river
Checking flop seems gross vs someone who'll call down 3 streets light.

I shoved the turn and he instad A4.
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