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sandstorm
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08-20-2006, 11:19 PM
Post subject: Mix-up gone wrong(?)
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 573
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200NL 5-max
I have $325, villain covers. I'm on the button. The CO isa little loose player, but not much more out of line than that. 34/17 so he raises quite a bit. I decide to mix things up a bit, but what to do on the flop?
HERO has  :Td:
PREFLOP
CO raises to $6, HERO raises to $20, CO calls
($43 in pot)
FLOP   
CO checks, HERO bets $30, CO raises to $90, HERO ??? (has $275 left and he covers)
I assume we CAN get all-in on most turns (I obv fold any non-diamond), so is this just a mathematical question? I felt kinda fishy and I suck at quick calculations. If someone could do a detalied math analysis I would be glad. I am embarrasingly horrible at those things (he could have a set or overpairs, discount outs etc etc).
Maybe I shouldn'r have got into that situation either so all comments are welcome.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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Robert
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kokkedal, Denmark
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I call here. I think raising here is bad, because unless opp is a donk I dont think you have much folding equity given the preflop and flop action.
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locks1018
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 154
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Me personally, I like playing LAG but I like being the original agressor. He raises frequently but calling a reraise is not a play a player does without a decent hand like a big ace or pp. Here smells signs of pp. I would assume JJ, or QQ. KK or AA would've probably repopped and the only set I could really put him on is 88's. Because you have a 9 and 10, its less likely he has a pair of those. I think this is almost a fold. I don't think you have 15 outs in this situation and at worst, you could be up against a higher flush draw or an overpair in which you only have 9 outs instead of 15 and you're not getting the right odds to chase.
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Robert
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kokkedal, Denmark
Posts: 1,109
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Getting almost 1:3 on the flop call I call here with the flushdraw
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arkana
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Call
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jackvance
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,910
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you have to call $60 into what will be a $223 pot, or 27%. Odds to make your flush on the turn is 20%. Effective stacks left $215 for implied odds which results in a call..
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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sandstorm
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 573
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i called, but then i thought about:
higher flushdraws
sets -> full houses
high pair with a diamond in it
hands not paying me off when i hit
etc
i have a little trouble figuring out my implied odds i guess, discounting for the above reasons.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,339
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As an aside, does anyone ever check any flop behind here?
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Dr_Giggles
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by arkana
Call
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I would also call this. BTW, nice avatar!!! *giggle*
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,463
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Fnord against a fish i don't think checking behind is bad
against thinker I don't think getting paid off is very likely if we turn the flush
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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