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Old 08-12-2007, 07:29 PM     Post subject: Missaplied aggression on this combo draw? #1 (permalink)  

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No reads on villain, he is new to table. I never know what to do in these spots, i think the raise on the flop was fine but unsure of what to do on the turn when i missed. How much should I bet betting on this turnl? Any advice on how to play this hand, or bet draws effectively when i miss on the turn would be helpful. Thanks.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($10.10)
UTG ($7.75)
MP ($15.20)
CO ($26.10)
Hero ($33.20)
SB ($25.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 7.
UTG raises to $0.5, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2.50) 9, 5, A (5 players)
SB bets $1.75, BB folds, UTG folds, CO calls $1.75, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4.25, CO folds.

Turn: ($16.25) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $26.7 (All-In), SB calls $19.25 (All-In).

River: ($54.75) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $54.75
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 raise the flop to $8 or $9 since there is a bet and a call and then pushing the turn becomes closer to a PSB.
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 raise flop more please.
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Do people in your game ever fold Ax on this board?
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Some of the more nitty/aware players fold Ax. But most players dont fold it except when the board is very wet. I would not expect these players to fold Ax tho because the table was very loose/passive.
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Do people in your game ever fold Ax on this board?
Do people in this game ever fold J 6 on this board?


What about this line:

Calling flop and turn (as long as they are reasonable bets), then VB made flush or pushbomb with "busted draw" when non-heart gutshot hits...?

Or calling flop and raising possible weak bet on turn if we hit a pair. We will represent board coordination and have a pair which will help if CO was also drawing to hearts.
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Do people in your game ever fold Ax on this board?
Do people in this game ever fold J 6 on this board?


What about this line:

Calling flop and turn (as long as they are reasonable bets), then VB made flush or pushbomb with "busted draw" when non-heart gutshot hits...?

Or calling flop and raising possible weak bet on turn if we hit a pair. We will represent board coordination and have a pair which will help if CO was also drawing to hearts.
No chance in hell, 12 outs(48%) or so to complete with all the dead money already in the pot plus the chance to fold them out with a flop raise or turn shove.

Raise this more like they said, or shove if you feel your against an Ax that can't fold.
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2,376 games 0.005 secs 475,200 games/sec

Board: Ah 9s 5h 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.896% 22.64% 00.25% 538 6.00 { 8h7h }
Hand 1: 77.104% 76.85% 00.25% 1826 6.00 { AJs-A9s, A5s, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, AQo-A9o, A5o }


Check behind on turn. You have no fold equity and you are most likely behind whatever villain is holding. If you do make a flush on the river, i would just call. If you make a straight, i would shove.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:28 AM #10 (permalink)  
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No enough hand isn't strong enough + not enough FE for turn push. Take the free card.

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