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clarkatroid
Old 12-04-2007, 12:22 AM     Post subject: misplayed hand on every street #1 (permalink)  
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this hand has been troubling me .
i know i misplayed it terribly, but what is your optimal line.
i am hero utg, with AA.
comments on river please especially, and any other streets




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UTG ($651.08)
UTG+1 ($493.70)
CO ($261.30)
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SB ($398.00)
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Pre-flop: ($6, 6 players)
UTG raises to $16, UTG+1 calls $16, 2 folds, SB calls $14, 1 fold

Flop: ($52, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $24, UTG+1 raises to $72, SB folds, UTG calls $48

Turn: ($196, 2 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $100, UTG calls $100

River: ($396, 2 players)
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:42 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 i dont see anything wrong with flop action. i dont like c/c turn tho, raise his bet. as played i lead river strong, it looks like a missed draw and theres no way the 2 or 3 helped his hand, unless he had 3's in which case i puke in my mouth and reload.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Anyone like b/f $132 on turn? It looks like the best option unless villain is a known spewer.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:25 AM #4 (permalink)  
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If you have him on flop semibluff/busted draw on river, is any point in leading this river? C/c seems like better line...
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:23 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Anyone like b/f $132 on turn? It looks like the best option unless villain is a known spewer.
I think we can even b/c a lot because with the 2 pairing there's less sets out there and I don't see villain having a 2 here.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:54 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 On stars or full tilt I 3-bet/get it in on the flop.

Actually i take that line on all sites.

If you have the Ad you can call the flop but i'd c/s most of the time on turns on a blank like that.

As played,the turn is interesting because i think his bet size is polarized to JJ, Tx, and boats. So i like calling the turn and c/c a non diamond river. If a diamond comes i'm not calling anything over like 1/3 pot.
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I agree with 3betting/shoving the flop.

When you call the flop-raise, is it to disguise the strength of your hand or are you actually afraid of a set? Because if u are not afraid of a set, and i see no particular reason to be, you want to get it in on the turn, right?

Most of the time i think u are up against either a 10 or some mid pp (incl. JJ) which might call a river shove so i probably either shove or bet like half his remaing stack (bout $150?) as played.

Overall i don't think u played it bad, just get it in somehow and puke if he shows a boat or Ad2d.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 How does no one have a problem with the flop bet? It should be bigger, almost pot in a 3-way pot with a flush draw. I like 3-betting all-in on the flop unless the guy's a total post-flop nit. Check raise all-in on the turn is good because you're really only afraid of 444 now, I would think TT would reraise preflop and no one ever has quads.

As played, c/c river to let him continue running a bluff, I think you're more likely to get value that way than from leading and hoping he has something like AT.

My thinking might be way off though because everyone seems to have a different answer here.


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Old 12-04-2007, 06:00 PM #9 (permalink)  
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villain actually had AcTc.

thanks guys and wow to the responses. everyone has a different line here.

Knowing his cards i obviously missed a ton of value here, i feel like i actually lost the extra 300 he has behind, as im pretty sure he stacks off on that flop.

so overall i think im playing a little too much scared chips here. but im an mtt player, and just feeling my way around these 6 max cash games at the moment. im now 15000 hands in, and at the start i got a little too excited with premium starting hands and got slapped a lot by set miners.

so now maybe i have adjusted a little too much the other way.

i checked the river , and he checked behind, which disgusted me, poor old fido my dog got a right kicking, and i feel i defo missed a bet to JJ ace ten , maybe even qq if hes timid pre flop.

but i didnt want to lead the river and get re shoved (again!) by a set. i thought ill check it and maybe he fires with busted flush draw.

but thanks again for your replys guys. i very much like the contributors on this site.

ps, how many pokertracker bbs per 100 is good running, espec for a newbie, im at 3.78 over 15000 hands so far, all at 6 max 2/4

shaky start but slowly getting the hang of it
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:02 PM #10 (permalink)  
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How does no one have a problem with the flop bet? It should be bigger, almost pot in a 3-way pot with a flush draw.
Oh wow, i got so hung up on other actions that i missed it. Bet the flop at least 3/4 pot you nit!
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