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Old 06-08-2009, 04:07 AM     Post subject: minbet raise obv? #1 (permalink)  
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This is probably the saddest hand of my night. Comments welcome. Pre I probably should be 3 betting, but for flop it's value. wtf with turn donk min bet action? I mean if he checks turn i'm likely checking behind but if he bets min, i feel compelled to raise.


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1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6, UTG+1 calls $6

Turn: ($21.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, $1 to Hero ($95.85)?
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:24 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't 3 bet preflop. Call his 1 dollar bet and see what happens on the river.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:52 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't 3 bet preflop. Call his 1 dollar bet and see what happens on the river.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:00 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Why do you feel compelled to raise the turn? The only hand this would be correct against would be like a flush draw, one that he had to have backed into. A raise is very likely to fold out 66-88 (maybe not if he's bad). I doubt he bet/calls Ahi with all that often, so a raise isn't for value, and given his bet and your pot odds, there is absolutely no reason to bluff. Call, and re-evaluate river.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:09 AM     Post subject: Re: minbet raise obv? #5 (permalink)  
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I mean if he checks turn i'm likely checking behind but if he bets min, i feel compelled to raise.
Why? Just treat it as a check and do as you normally would.


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Old 06-08-2009, 11:14 AM #6 (permalink)  
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no real reason to raise the turn. just call and see what his action is on the river
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:15 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I don't see a real reason to bet the flop. And if I felt extremely compelled to, I would be betting like 3$ just to kinda irritate him since when he checks he's repping that he's either giving up or that he has a king and doesn't think he can get called by worse, or has like A high and doesn't think he can get called by worse.

As galapagos stated, treat the minbet like a check. The rest of the advice in this thread is good imo.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:51 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I don't see a real reason to bet the flop.
I agree in most instances. The way OP described his actions, I suppose OP is doing this for value, and happens to know villain is going to check/call Ahi, low pps, etc. If that's the case, then vbetting 99 on the flop isn't bad imo. However, it's also fine to check it back obv.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:09 PM #9 (permalink)  
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ty for replies, I guess I played it right mostly.
In reviewing the hand I felt that calling turn set me up for the river which was not an easy spot to be in. If I raise turn I thought he might have folded a weak king, but if i call the min I show my hand isn't strong and allow 100% of his range to bet river into me.


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Stacks:
UTG ($172.70)
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SB ($381.20)
BB ($30.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6, UTG+1 calls $6

Turn: ($21.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($23.50, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $17, Hero folds

Final Pot: $23.50

UTG+1 wins $39.40 ( won +$11.40 )
Hero lost -$11
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:54 PM #10 (permalink)  
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People that take this line with a king don't fold when you raise the turn.
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