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Old 04-19-2009, 08:02 PM     Post subject: min-opens at 50nl #1 (permalink)  
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 When I have 22 or 76s, I like min-opens. But what about when we have some good value? I've been putting in smallish 3x raises to isolate which works better ip (hand 1) than oop (hand 2).


Hand 1:

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($65.55)
UTG 1 ($53.00)
Hero (CO) ($50.00)
BTN ($87.75)
SB ($67.65)
BB ($52.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($9.75, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero ($47)?


Hand 2: oop should the raise be bigger?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($52.45)
CO ($41.25)
BTN ($50.70)
Hero (SB) ($50.50)
BB ($35.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is SB
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50, BTN calls $2

Flop: ($9.50, 3 players)
Hero ($47.50)?
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I was wondering the same thing. I have been going 3.5x ip and 4.5x oop to minraises, not sure if that's correct though.
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 I always 3x in position and 3.5x OOP. ATo is generally a pretty iffy 3-bet hand vs and UTG open but since he min-raised I think it's safe to assume he sucks and calls with plenty worse.


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The BB is 50c, hero is isolating a min-raise (probably a terribad player to boot.)

Hand 1: $5
Hand 2: Yes, bigger raise OOP. Bet closer to the size of the pot here to better define hands and because this board has more action to it than hand 1.
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I always 3x in position and 3.5x OOP. ATo is generally a pretty iffy 3-bet hand vs and UTG open but since he min-raised I think it's safe to assume he sucks and calls with plenty worse.
Yeah, I'm autofolding AT against an UTG PFR when villain's raise is "standard." But I don't wanna just flat here and get the blinds in cheap. Heck, maybe even the BTN comes in, too. ATo is gonna suck multi-way.
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:06 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 1) I'm not really a big fan of this even if he's obv terrible. A reverse implied spot that is kinda unnecessary. Although 3 betting ip can't be that terrible. As played definitely bet.

2) Make it bigger for sure preflop. I don't see why you're 3 bet has to be a different size (ie 3x or 4x or whatever) than usual to a min raise. If anything I'd make it bigger than normal in this spot to try and get the same spr as a 3 bet pot.



 
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:27 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Sites and players are different. What I've been finding recently is that a min-raise at 50nl on my site is a good indication of how strong an opponent thinks his hand is. I see a lot of weak AX, sooted cards (not necessarily connected in any way), and small PPs. On iPoker I used to find a lot of people trapping with this, but not on Everest.
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Sites and players are different. What I've been finding recently is that a min-raise at 50nl on my site is a good indication of how strong an opponent thinks his hand is. I see a lot of weak AX, sooted cards (not necessarily connected in any way), and small PPs. On iPoker I used to find a lot of people trapping with this, but not on Everest.
FT seems to lean toward weak Aces (sooted even!), sc's and stuff like that. I thought I was way ahead of his calling range, obv.
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