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Old 02-12-2007, 09:01 AM     Post subject: mid 2pr no good vs loose-passive? #1 (permalink)  
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my only read is he's 30/6/1.7 after 350 hands, and limp-folds a lot pre flop.
also im 25/20, and have isolated him and taken down pots either pre or on the flop or turn a few times.

do you call there? I did, thinking maybe he's getting mad at me, and/or overvaluing top pair and I can fold to a river push.
should I just fold? am I being too cautious?

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Old 02-12-2007, 01:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 ugh i fold. He's too passive and loose enough to see Q9 and 97 here a lot. As well as other hands like JT or 88.
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check/minraise and then betting out the next street is a very strong line from this guy. I think you are behind most of the time. Not only that but its way behind or a little ahead.
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you arent beating a whole lot fwiw
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I find I lose some big pots when I think that weak/passive opps I've been pushing around are finally playing back at me. Usually they're not, they actually have a hand.
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I find I lose some big pots when I think that weak/passive opps I've been pushing around are finally playing back at me. Usually they're not, they actually have a hand.
QFT. These guys aren't waiting around forever to finally push at you with nothing. They've been waiting for a hand. The key to being profitable when pushing these weak-asses around is to not actually pay them off when they finally get the goods.


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thanks everybody. you're all right on, especially miffed...but I hit my 2 outer on the river since i'm due for that and 8 is my lucky number, heh. still felt dumb though..

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I find I lose some big pots when I think that weak/passive opps I've been pushing around are finally playing back at me. Usually they're not, they actually have a hand.
ya, I agree this is a key lesson. once in a while I have a hand where I ignore this and rationalize it as fighting against my image, but you're all right, ppl are usually more stuck in there ways.
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thanks everybody. you're all right on, especially miffed...but I hit my 2 outer on the river since i'm due for that and 8 is my lucky number, heh. still felt dumb though..

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I find I lose some big pots when I think that weak/passive opps I've been pushing around are finally playing back at me. Usually they're not, they actually have a hand.
ya, I agree this is a key lesson. once in a while I have a hand where I ignore this and rationalize it as fighting against my image, but you're all right, ppl are usually more stuck in there ways.
id felt a set here without thought but not two pair, especially when the loose/passives come out firing. top two is an ugly ugly spot here (depsite opp having that etc)
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I feel foldy if villain is truly passive postflop.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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