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Old 02-08-2008, 03:40 PM     Post subject: micro foldable spot? #1 (permalink)  

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goodtreep PFR is 28% and AF78(!) generally makes bad plays.

PokerStars Game #15144671212: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/02/08 - 11:25:40 (ET)
Table 'Philosophia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ixidixi ($2.23 in chips)
Seat 2: lizardkings ($3.25 in chips)
Seat 3: OldePaddy ($3.69 in chips)
Seat 4: Necrmonate ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 5: goodtreep ($3 in chips)
Seat 6: TheManners ($6.20 in chips)
lizardkings: posts small blind $0.01
OldePaddy: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheManners [4h 6h]
Necrmonate: folds
goodtreep: raises $0.04 to $0.06
TheManners: calls $0.06
ixidixi: folds
lizardkings: calls $0.05
OldePaddy: folds
*** FLOP *** [6s 7d Ah]
lizardkings: checks
goodtreep: bets $0.06
TheManners: calls $0.06
lizardkings: folds
*** TURN *** [6s 7d Ah] [4c]
goodtreep: bets $0.06
TheManners: raises $0.14 to $0.20
goodtreep: raises $0.14 to $0.34 [insta-minraise]
TheManners: raises $5.74 to $6.08 and is all-in
goodtreep: calls $2.54 and is all-in

I called preflop with position and flop simply for the pot odds. The insta-minraise that fish so commonly do with strong hands scared me a little but not enough to make me fold so instead I push, is this bad/wrong?

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Old 02-09-2008, 07:01 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I would never call this pre. I would fold to the flop bet and probably just call his min raise and try to get to showdown cheap. I don't have any experience at these stakes though so I dunno how crazy people are. The shove might be ok.

The key is folding preflop for me.



 
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why? he is an aggro fish so usually calling with anything is +EV. his PFR% is quite large and its only 3bbs. we also have button and a suited one gapper. calling here is really a leak??
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 you want to play SC's and SG's for the most part in limped multiway pots, not to a single raise. Those hands are all about implied odds and against a single raiser you usually dont have them so folding preflop should be the default play here.
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why? he is an aggro fish so usually calling with anything is +EV. his PFR% is quite large and its only 3bbs. we also have button and a suited one gapper. calling here is really a leak??
I have found the best and most profitable way to play fish is to always be the aggressor by opening or 3 betting. Try 3 betting the top half of his positionally adjusted opening range and watch him spew his stack to you.



 
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:36 AM #6 (permalink)  

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ok well thanks. I'll consider folding similar hands in those situations in future (esp. when i play my normal stakes).

here's what happened:

*** RIVER *** [6s 7d Ah 4c] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
goodtreep: shows [Ad Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
TheManners: mucks hand
goodtreep collected $5.78 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.08 | Rake $0.30
Board [6s 7d Ah 4c 8c]
Seat 1: ixidixi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: lizardkings (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: OldePaddy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Necrmonate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: goodtreep showed [Ad Ac] and won ($5.78) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: TheManners mucked [4h 6h]

I had him on AK-AT and i was almost 90% sure until I got insta min raised. Then, I was a bit worried. I think I played badly here, I should've used instinct and just called and seen a cheap showdown.

I guess I got greedy.
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