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Old 04-18-2007, 07:43 PM     Post subject: massive donkage #1 (permalink)  
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19/14/2.5, read him as a solid player who is capable of making laydowns

FullTiltPoker Game #2235950482: Table St Jude (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:34:41 ET - 2007/04/18
Seat 1: Cleese ($35)
Seat 2: wHaTTaDo ($36.10)
Seat 3: RunnerX ($24.55)
Seat 4: Rou_rn ($27.55)
Seat 5: jishuu ($26.85)
Seat 6: JayPee007 ($81.80)
Rou_rn posts the small blind of $0.10
jishuu posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jishuu [Js Tc]
JayPee007 folds
Cleese folds
wHaTTaDo raises to $1
RunnerX folds
Rou_rn folds
jishuu calls $0.75
Rou_rn stands up
*** FLOP *** [As 3h 8d]
jishuu checks
wHaTTaDo bets $1.50
jishuu raises to $4
wHaTTaDo calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [As 3h 8d] [8s]
jishuu bets $6
wHaTTaDo calls $6
*** RIVER *** [As 3h 8d 8s] [Qh]
jishuu bets $15.85, and is all in
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:54 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 The board is not scary enough for him to laydown TPTK.
I think every street is spew.

Pre-flop I have my fold button selected and turn my attention to another table.

After he calls flop raise, I would give up.
He's probably not calling without an ace, and he's not going to fold that ace after the board pairs.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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pre/flop and flop are spewy aggro into TAG PFR with A on board, but not horrible. You will make money whenever he raises PF with no A. It would be better if villian was a little more loose than 19/14, like 25/20, or was on BU.

You must give up when your c/r is called. You are basically repping a donkish PF SB call with AX (which happens, oh, like every hand at micro limits)
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
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At the risk of being bashed for being uncreative...you don't need to do this to win a good amount of money at the $25.
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 I tend not to raise a flop with air unless i have strong reads, one of which being him folding to the flop raise lol.
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 He might be capable of making laydowns, but not against the average 25NL donk who will stack off with most Aces there. With stats like that he's probably playing a bazillion tables and not taking enough notice of individuals to have a read on you that deserves respect.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:19 PM #7 (permalink)  
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not a good board for this nonsense
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:52 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i don't think this is the place or level to do this. you're just spewing almost always.
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:02 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 nope
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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He flipped over 88. I laughed as said I guess I wasn't going to bet him off that hand.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:53 AM #11 (permalink)  
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this is fine as long as u shave ur balls afterwards
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 ahahahah

and yes this is total spew, basically fold every street
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:54 AM #13 (permalink)  
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 I don't care how strong of a line you take man, you're never getting him to fold quads here.

On a serious note, what in the world do you think he was calling you with on the turn?
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 Why is this a bad board to bluff on?

My intuition tells me that it's bad because the only hands he's likely to have are hands that he's likely to stack off with, TPGK+..

The thing is though, isn't a drawy board a bad one to bluff on because our opponent will convince himself we have a draw, and even if the turn & river are bricks he'll talk himself into a call on the river because we may be buying with a missed draw?
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