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Old 03-01-2007, 07:31 PM     Post subject: Making a really thin call #1 (permalink)  
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 Opp is 24/18 reg who isnt overly thinky, make sure to read first line of chat for reads.
The rest of the chat is really funny even though its all jumbled. Read for entertainment if u want. I'll comment after a few posts.
Redgrape20 (2:18:37 PM): PokerStars Game #8686813593: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/03/01 - 15:15:20 (ET)
Table 'Diadem IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kevinn1 ($151.10 in chips)
Seat 2: redgrape ($325.95 in chips)
Seat 3: cougario ($197.50 in chips)
Seat 5: pokerchris80 ($82.60 in chips)
Seat 6: nikolis1 ($78.70 in chips)
redgrape: posts small blind $1
cougario: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [Ts Th]
pokerchris80: folds
nikolis1: folds
kevinn1: folds
redgrape: raises $6 to $8
cougario: raises $16 to $24
redgrape: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [5h Ad 5d]
redgrape: checks
cougario: bets $36
redgrape: calls $36
*** TURN *** [5h Ad 5d] [6h]
redgrape: checks
cougario: checks
*** RIVER *** [5h Ad 5d 6h] [Jh]
redgrape: checks
cougario: bets $137.50 and is all-in
redgrape said, "hmmm"
redgrape said, "meh"
redgrape: Redgrape20 (2:19:07 PM): reads are threebets 77 and will take bet check bet line with hands

Redgrape20 (2:19:29 PM): i think i made a really retarded decisionMaxEPad1000 (2:19:58 PM): WHY DO YOU KEEP PLAYING 1/2Redgrape20 (2:19:41 PM): this is a horrid tableMaxEPad1000 (2:20:04 PM): we have a 4000 rollMaxEPad1000 (2:20:10 PM): ohRedgrape20 (2:19:55 PM): its just so bad and we do have 20 buy insMaxEPad1000 (2:20:26 PM): so then stop making high varience, thin, bad callsRedgrape20 (2:20:18 PM): max TT calling here is standardRedgrape20 (2:20:45 PM): seriously think about thisRedgrape20 (2:21:01 PM): i mean on preflop TT is standardMaxEPad1000 (2:21:32 PM): LOLRedgrape20 (2:21:16 PM): what?MaxEPad1000 (2:21:58 PM): even considering calling this is ridiculousRedgrape20 (2:21:54 PM): U ARE RIDICULOUSRedgrape20 (2:21:59 PM): really think about itRedgrape20 (2:22:10 PM): do you want me to spell out his rangeRedgrape20 (2:22:41 PM): even though i folded this is such an obvious callRedgrape20 (2:23:13 PM): every good hand he does this with, AK, 66, 55, AQ may not even bet on the riverRedgrape20 (2:23:22 PM): i mean may not bet as hardRedgrape20 (2:23:34 PM): especially with all the weakness i showedMaxEPad1000 (2:24:04 PM): it just looks like JJ or a runner runner heart flushRedgrape20 (2:24:08 PM): and even those bet less a lotMaxEPad1000 (2:24:56 PM): not necessarily at allRedgrape20 (2:24:38 PM): and i have to be good 1/3rd of the timeMaxEPad1000 (2:25:05 PM): making it look like a bluff maybe?
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:33 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Also I'm more interested for as played then comments on flop (because if this is always a call then flop is good).
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:35 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:38 PM #4 (permalink)  
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fix the stuff
the chat? thats not important... or r u talking of something else?
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:40 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Why post it if it's not important?

BTW I bet-check-bet a lot with good hands in re-raised pots because people look you up really light on the river.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:47 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Im pretty sure flop is complete spew BTW.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:55 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I fold flop... I've played a decent amount wit cougario and hes good enough u have to fold flop. I really, really, really, really hate this call on the flop.

As played river is tough vs this villain. Lets assume a river shove discounts AJ, KK QQ TT, probably AQ.

That leaves his range in my mind as AK AA, and 66, 55, 56, JJ for value. Your problem is comparing this range to the times he decides to bluff with 22-99, KQ, maybe KJ, or pure air which hes 3betting as a semibluff. All in all I don't think you win here a third of the time and I would muck em say unnnnhhh.

Note: Flop call is beyond horrible.

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Old 03-01-2007, 07:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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redgrape: Redgrape20 (2:19:07 PM): reads are threebets 77 and will take bet check bet line with hands

...trust your reads danny you put them there for a reason.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:01 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 flop is a clear fold>raise> call

river is still a fold, it looks like AK to me
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 Don't float for the sake of floating, especially OOP. Don't try to make a really thin call with a really good read. Realize that a runnered flush, AA, JJ, 66 or even AK may play this the same way. Also, if he doesn't have an A he has a PP that's beating you most likely.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:07 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 It wasn't a float because i never planned on bluffing, it was just bad lolz. I think psychologically seeing the 77 thing it must have really beaten my mind to "you have him beat, he has 77." I know it sounds stupid but ive been pretty dumb recently.

Riv is really close IMO
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:25 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Ok, 3betting with 77 in position is a good play imo. I don't understand why this rocked ur mindset.

This is pretty standard in most 1/2 and 2/4 games I've played in specially the tough ones. Sauce.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:11 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Ok, 3betting with 77 in position is a good play imo. I don't understand why this rocked ur mindset.

This is pretty standard in most 1/2 and 2/4 games I've played in specially the tough ones. Sauce.
Is this only against LP raisers? I surely hope its not a standard 3bet against an UTG raise even if he is on the wildish side.


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Old 03-01-2007, 09:28 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Ok, 3betting with 77 in position is a good play imo. I don't understand why this rocked ur mindset.

This is pretty standard in most 1/2 and 2/4 games I've played in specially the tough ones. Sauce.
Is this only against LP raisers? I surely hope its not a standard 3bet against an UTG raise even if he is on the wildish side.
Yeah obv its hes talking about lagg raisers.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:51 PM #15 (permalink)  
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 Very hard to put him on a hand.

Prob AJ, JJ or air.

I don't mind the call.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:54 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Im pretty sure flop is complete spew BTW.
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Riv is really close IMO
I don't understand how if the flop is complete spew, what changes things by the river that you think it's suddenly a good idea to call off the rest? Am I missing something?

I also fold flop FWIW


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Im pretty sure flop is complete spew BTW.
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Riv is really close IMO
I don't understand how if the flop is complete spew, what changes things by the river that you think it's suddenly a good idea to call off the rest? Am I missing something?

I also fold flop FWIW
I think it's a reference to the fact that you can sometimes make up for a big mistake at one point in a hand (typically early, when things tend to be more straightforward) with a very astute decision in a marginal situation later on in a hand.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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 its a huge spew if im planning on folding the river.
Anyways, the difference on the river is he's betting for value sometimes here.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:49 AM #19 (permalink)  
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the weirdest thing about this river is that he bet AT ALL imo...
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