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Old 02-28-2006, 07:09 AM     Post subject: Making a play. Chip spew? #1 (permalink)  
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Both villian's are solid TAG, and capable *I think* of laying down a hand. My image is TAG, nothing out of line. We have been splashing around trading little pots here and there. I figured nobody had a ten given the bet amounts and passive action, and there was a good chance I would fold out the nut flush draw or straight draws with the turn CR. Is it worth it, or just take the cheap river? How's my river line?

Players:
deception (EUR 28,10 in seat 1)
Hero (EUR 222,25 in seat 2)
$MorrisseY (EUR 357,93 in seat 3)
anteeup (EUR 34,70 in seat 4)
The___Duke (EUR 94,62 in seat 5)
Alexthebal (EUR 116,30 in seat 6)

Dealer: Alexthebal
Small Blind: deception (0,50)
Big Blind: Hero (1,00)

Hero was dealt: 6h - Kh

$MorrisseY Call (1,00)
anteeup Call (1,00)
The___Duke Fold
Alexthebal Call (1,00)
deception Call (0,50)
Hero Check

Flop 9h - Th - 4c

deception Check
Hero Check
$MorrisseY Check
anteeup Check
Alexthebal Bet (2,30)
deception Fold
Hero Call (2,30)
$MorrisseY Call (2,30)
anteeup Fold

Turn 9h - Th - 4c - Td

Hero Check
$MorrisseY Check
Alexthebal Bet (3,00)
Hero Raise (12,00)
$MorrisseY Fold
Alexthebal Call (9,00)

River 9h - Th - 4c - Td - Ad

Hero Bet (23,00)
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I dig it.
 
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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A 10 is probably your worst bluffing card.
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:00 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Not sure if I'm thrilled about the way you played the turn. He is betting as if has a ten, and then calls you turn raise, probably with trips. I don't see him folding a ten here so I wouldn't have bothered raising the turn or betting that river. I would probably lead out on this flop rather than check-call, but check-calling the flop and turn isn't a bad play.
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:50 PM #5 (permalink)  
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This is a tough one since you only check/called the flop. His "bet" on the turn means really strong (as in a boat) or really weak (chasing like you). Unless this guy is more passive than you mention. Would a TAGG weakly bet and call with trips or two pair on a flush draw board? Maybe, but not likely. Unless he was drawing to the nut flush or has a boat, he's folding here - unless he was playing two pair or trips passively, which doesn't make sense. I like it. Folding equity is fun.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:41 PM #6 (permalink)  
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A 10 is probably your worst bluffing card.
Can you explain yourself?

Also, how would you guys play the flop and turn? Do you always lead this flop?
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:47 PM #7 (permalink)  
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He is betting as if has a ten, and then calls you turn raise, probably with trips.
What makes you think he has a ten? Just curious. If I felt he had a ten, then there's no way I CR the turn.
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:22 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Also, how would you guys play the flop and turn? Do you always lead this flop?
It's not that you played the flop wrong, it's that you ran a bluff after playing the flop the way you did - which makes your bluff a little less believable. I lead this flop depending on my image and my opps. Other people bet draws often to build the pot for when they hit. He's betting weak, so your turn play is fine if you think he'll fold. He doesn't so you try to convince him on the river. I don't see a problem with it. Not the most elegant play from flop to river, but you made a move when you saw the opportunity.
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:39 PM #9 (permalink)  
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id lead this flop on a taggy image
i wouldnt make this play on a taggy opp
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:51 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Once he calls the turn, villain has either 2 hearts, OESD, or a boat (99/TT/9T/44).


I agree with others that your turn rep of TTT is not credible... except maybe T weak kicker, so when the 2nd T falls you rule out anyone else having the 4th.

I guess you have to bet the river, since you have no showdown value except vs QJ.
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