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dalecooper
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05-18-2008, 02:46 PM
Post subject: Made my set but what do I do?
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4-of-a-Kind
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This was an awkward hand. Villain was nitty and had folded to all my previous SB and button raises. I only had about 70 hands with him but he hadn't 3-bet any previous hand.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($57.65)
MP ($104.80)
CO ($107.55)
Hero ($74.90)
SB ($60.85)
BB ($51.35)
Preflop: Hero is Button with   .
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, SB raises to $5.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50.
Flop: ($10.75) :Ac:, :Kd:,  (2 players)
SB bets $7.5, Hero calls $7.50.
Turn: ($25.75) :Ks: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: ($25.75)  (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12...
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lolzzz_321
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i prbly bet like half pot or less on turn, because,,,,,,,,
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dalecooper
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Because,,,,,,,,,,? 
My logic there was -
1. He has QQ/JJ/TT and absolutely hates this board. Any substantial bet from me is not getting called. But if I check behind he might call the same bet on the river, thinking I'm just buying the pot.
2. He has AA/AK/KK and my bet is swirling down the toilet bowl.
The only other hand I could reasonably give him was AQ, which it would be fine to value bet against. I don't imagine he was 3-betting me with anything worse than AQ or TT.
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Deanglow
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You need to bet the turn because it is unlikely that he calls and folds river, you are kind of deep, and you need protection.
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dalecooper
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Protection from what? His plausible hands (that are not already ahead of me) are drawing to two or zero outs. Ace-anything would be a four outer but it's iffy that he would three-bet weaker than AK. King-anything has the most outs (seven), but I would say there's almost no way he would three-bet those hands pre-flop.
Basically, protection is not on my mind here.
I'd like to hear more on your first argument though. What do you mean by that?
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Alexos
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his range is way wider than what u described, unless hes 10/10
just bet turn for value, and if checked to on river bet again
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dalecooper
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Alexos
his range is way wider than what u described, unless hes 10/10
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He was more like 12/8, actually. When I said he was a nit I really meant it.
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griffey24
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Against most villains I'd probably raise this flop smallish and induce some kind of shove with all aces and bluffs and FD's/combo draws.
Against a nit I don't mind a call, but am betting this turn for value since he can be pot controlling all aces. Don't get tricky, just bet it for value and let him make a mistake.
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EzDuzIt
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raise flop
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DJJunkPauds
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I think you played it fine apart from the river, which is still basically okay imho. There you can probably make it $18, because if he's folding to $18, he's folding to $12, and if he calls $12 he is calling $18. The 3 extra dollars doesn't make you anymore pot committed either. Unless... you wanted to induce a bluff? If that's the case, I don't like it.
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DJJunkPauds
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I just read your comment about looking like you were buying the pot. I see the logic in that, nh.
(and 18-12=3 according to me these days for some reason).
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will641
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raise the flop. there are so many combo draws in your range, and i doubt hes going to give you any more action w/o a hand.
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minSim
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Agree, I don't see any reason to not raise the flop with the intention of getting stacks in there or on the next street.
This flop is perfect for you, get it in.
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