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Old 05-21-2007, 02:09 PM     Post subject: List of Theorems #1 (permalink)  
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i feel like i'm at a disadvantage because i keep hearing about theorem this and theorem that and i have no idea what it is, so i end up googling it to find out. let's get a comprehensive list going! (most of these assume heads up)

Baluga Theorem:
if you're raised on the turn after a flop cbet, your top pair is probably no good.
another interpretation: villains won't raise the turn on a draw (obviously will not work at higher stakes)

Yeti Theorem:
if someone is representing trips with a 3bet on the flop, they are lying.

Zeebo Theorem:
no one will fold a full house. on 777xx type boards, almost everyone will call an all in if they pair the board.

Yvesaint Theorem:
if you have 22, a 3 will flop. if you have 33, a 2 will flop. (is this for real? i found this on a 2p2 link. pretty dumb theorem (no offense to yvesaint) if you ask me.)

those are the ones i know so far, but i'm sure there's more! feel free to correct what i've already stated if it's wrong.
 
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:57 PM     Post subject: Re: List of Theorems #2 (permalink)  
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Yeti Theorem:
if someone is representing trips with a 3bet on the flop, they are lying.
I thought the yeti theorem was something like, if villain cont bets on a rag flop, we don't believe they hit this board since we put them on overs?
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Yeti Theorem:
if someone is representing trips with a 3bet on the flop, they are lying.
I thought the yeti theorem was something like, if villain cont bets on a rag flop, we don't believe they hit this board since we put them on overs?
i don't think so. theorems usually discuss the exception, rather than the rule. if your interpretation of the theorem was the case, we would be applying the yeti theorem to about 90% of hands (since everyone raises preflop nowadays).
 
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Clarkmeister's Theorem

Betting a river 4-flush out of position with any two cards. Not sure if it applies to NL, as it was originally written for LHE.
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Yvesaint Theorem:
if you have 22, a 3 will flop. if you have 33, a 2 will flop. (is this for real? i found this on a 2p2 link. pretty dumb theorem (no offense to yvesaint) if you ask me.)
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Button ($278.40)
SB ($220.05)
Hero ($222.30)
UTG ($227.47)
MP ($105.95)
CO ($99.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[], 3[].
UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($16.50) 8[], 2[], 3[] (4 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG raises to $36, MP folds, Button calls $36, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($124.50) 9[] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets $70, Hero calls $182.30 (All-In), UTG folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $376.80


A hand I played last night, villain said in the chat he folded 22. Sick fold, but I can see why he did so.
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 Yeti theorem: If someone threebets on the flop of a paired board they are bluffing.
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Yeti theorem: If someone threebets on the flop of a paired board dry they are bluffing.
Although bluffing here is in the eye of the beholder - I think this means people don't 3-bet dry paired boards with trips/boat.
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That is exactly what the Yeti theorem hinges on. Nobody wanting to get paid on their trips or boat will 3bet this for fear of blowing solid 2 pair(second best) hands out of the water.
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