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Rockymv

08-07-2006, 05:22 AM Post subject: Line checks from tonight

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Another rough night. Looks like I'm moving back to 50nl, which is doubly frustrating because I feel like I played pretty well tonight. Oh well.

1 - Villian is 35/25 and aggressive post-flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($122.87)
Button ($148.46)
Hero ($97.50)
BB ($74.83)
UTG ($108)
MP ($161.17)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

, 7

. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Button raises to $5, Hero (poster) calls $4.50, 1 fold, MP calls $4, CO folds.

Flop: ($17) 8

, 6

, 7

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $12, Hero raises to $48, MP folds, Button calls $131.46 (All-In), Hero calls $44.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($252.96) 6

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($252.96) Q

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $252.96

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2 - Villian is 38/13. I'm confused about what to do on the turn.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($143.80)
BB ($39.09)
UTG ($37.09)
MP ($82.21)
Button ($29.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, Q

. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $3.5, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($9) 9

, K

, 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7.

Turn: ($23) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $20, UTG calls $26.09 (All-In), Hero calls $6.09.

River: ($75.18) T

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $75.18

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3 - Villian is 40/10. Call this river? In retrospect a blocking bet would have been a lot better....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($101.50)
MP ($320.16)
CO ($166.55)
Button ($176.11)
SB ($256.46)
BB ($127.73)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, A

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, MP calls $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 8

, 8

, 7

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, MP calls $8, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($36.50) 4

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, MP calls $15, BB folds.

River: ($66.50) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $47.37, Hero calls $47.37.

Final Pot: $161.24

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4 - Villians are both LPish. Has the PF reraiser shown enough weakness for me to try to take BB's stack on the river?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($173)
BB ($45.36)
UTG ($125.15)
MP ($65.07)
Hero ($80.03)
Button ($48.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, Q

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $6.5, BB calls $6, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($21) Q

, 7

, 8

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($21) 8

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $10, Hero calls $10, SB calls $10.

River: ($51) 8

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls $30, BB calls $28.36 (All-In).

Final Pot: $139.36

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5 - Villian is 45/14.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($292.10)
SB ($129.90)
BB ($153.32)
UTG ($71.22)
Hero ($125.85)
CO ($116.38)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9

, J

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero calls $1, CO calls $1, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $2.75, CO calls $2.75.

Flop: ($11.75) J

, A

, 5

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, CO folds, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($27.75) T

(2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero calls $12.

River: ($51.75) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $51.75

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vqc

08-07-2006, 05:32 AM

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Posts: 5,427

I dont play NL 100 or NL 50 for that matter.

Hand 1
That preflop call cant be +EV can it?
Why not open and try and 3 bet all in?

Hand 2
That looks fine to me

Hand 3
Why so small on the turn?

Hand 4
Well if he thinks ur a loose raiser from the CO im sure him reraising JJ or TT isnt out of the questoin preflop.

Hand 5
Why no raise preflop?
TUrn looks fine.

bdawg56kg

08-07-2006, 05:35 AM

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1) fold or RR pf. As played lead flop and push over a raise. c/r sucks because there are a ton of crappy turn cards for your hand. What do you do if you c/r to 40, button calls, turn 2d? Pot is 97 and you have 51 left. Super crappy spot.

2) I usually don't raise pf here, but okay. Post flop is standard.

3) Check turn and call most bets, fold to a strong bet most likely. 56 just got there and you are crushed by trips/boat. Not a lot of worse hands pay off a turn bet, esp since theres 2 callers.

4) Bet flop. I might raise the turn as played, but you played it fine.

5) Don't open limp unless table is super LP/fishy. Rest look okay.

vqc

08-07-2006, 05:41 AM

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sweet my analysis wasnt that far off of bdawgs. im groot.

Rockymv

08-07-2006, 05:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vqc

I dont play NL 100 or NL 50 for that matter.

Hand 1
That preflop call cant be +EV can it?

dunno. MP and CO were loose enough that I thought they'd probably come along, and the raiser was loose and aggressive enough that I thought I had implied odds. The flop checkraise is pretty questionable; I had this idea in my head that anything without a diamond would be scared of this flop, so I should at least take this c-bet. obv once he pushes I can't fold.

Quote:

Hand 3
Why so small on the turn?

Well, there were no draws on the board, and I didn't want TT-KK to fold. Maybe $25 would've been better.

Quote:

Hand 4
Well if he thinks ur a loose raiser from the CO im sure him reraising JJ or TT isnt out of the questoin preflop.

I'm no authority, but it's been my experience that donkish players tend to min-reraise a pretty wide range. Once the flop checked through, I figured AK, AJ, mid-pair were as likely for him as anything else.

Quote:

Hand 5
Why no raise preflop?
TUrn looks fine.

I've been experimenting with open limping a lot more at loose passive tables.

Rockymv

08-07-2006, 05:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Check turn and call most bets

oh. i guess checking the turn is pretty obvious there.

Rockymv

08-07-2006, 05:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

yeah...i went with the c/r in part because i didn't want to lead the flop, get two callers, and see a diamond on the turn...but i guess it's better to see a diamond when more than half of my stack isn't already in the pot.

aislephive

08-07-2006, 07:07 AM

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Hand 1: On boards like this I tend to try to get all the money in on a safe turn. I'm not a big fan of getting all my money in here as a coinflip when I can get it in as a 3-1 fav.

Hand 2: Fine.

Hand 3: Bet bigger on turn, as played I think I fold to the river bet. 56 got there and him sandbagging trip 8s seems pretty likely. A blocking bet on the river isn't a bad idea either. I'd bet half pot as played on river.

Hand 4: Bet the flop, as played river bet is nice.

Hand 5: Standard.

gabe

08-07-2006, 04:51 PM

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gabe is an unknown quantity at this point

the preflop call in hand 1 is bad, because you dont really have implied odds with this type of hand vs such a lag

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